women in farming?

Well, I think I'm quite excited about the possibility of more support networks and more sort of visibility and even amazing that I'm here talking to you about it because I feel like since the panel discussion, I've had... a friends of mine and people that i don't know feeding back and going it really made me think about like how we manage our teams or um the sort of yeah the structure that we have and and maybe we could be a bit more flexible here or maybe we could you know that balance as we said between kind of empathy and accountability like where people sit in that in terms of how they manage their teams yeah so like i've had reflections on that which has been great and then also women who've come to me and said i'm from a family farm i've been doing something else i really want to get back into it how did you do it yeah or how can i get work experience or um also working in the kind of food space as well like interested in direct sales and working with like mills and other things so yeah i just in terms of the future and how to help women in farming i think just like being aware of some of the challenges and supporting each other and just, yeah, having this, something that stayed with me, I don't know, this is sort of relevant, but I used to listen to this radio show in Berlin called the Do You Breakfast Show.

and they the guy on that always said we need a get nice quick scheme we need everyone to be nicer and it's like sometimes those small actions of helping people if you can within your context in your busy farming life can really help someone else out anyone and I try to do as much of that as possible like giving back because I've had so much help myself in terms of when I have a challenge on the farm in particular like with the Party for Life Network but also in Arable where I feel I don't know what I'm doing most of the time and my only like touch point is the old farm manager who's much more conventional has organic experience too but we yeah we definitely have interesting conversations about how to do things and I'm often like looking for support on whether I'm making the right decision or what the outcomes of this decision could be and I've got an amazing network of arable farmers who I can just voice note and say and they're just friends who I've met over the years and I feel super grateful when I'm not sure what to do that I can do that and I think for all people in farming but also for women who are learning and getting into it and maybe need a bit more support that is really helpful so yeah support networks I think are game-changing.

Okay, earlier in the kitchen, I actually think it was in here before we started rolling, actually, you were asking, like, why did we do the podcast? Why did I want to do that? And I was saying to you about, you know, actually there's some quite important stuff I think needs saying and, like, there's a lot of changes going on in the world with technology and AI and whether people are empowered to actually express themselves and be creative and do things or whether some of that's been taken away and, and stuff around community and sense of place and job satisfaction and meaningful work and all of that stuff wrapped up is kind of why I wanted to start because you don't want to feel like you're doing nothing because it gets a bit stressful so at least you've got an outlet so this is kind of my therapy in some ways but when you were saying that you said that chimed with you so I wanted to say like well what's on your mind with regard to what's going on at the moment and concerning you and

Yeah, I feel, I suppose like you, I always feel like I'm having impact and like what I'm doing is making meaningful change in the world.

And I do feel... just so committed to the farm and to building the community around it and producing good food and like in particular with health and like we have such a big health crisis biodiversity loss like all these huge challenges that we're facing and like economic instability and and actually in and and wars i mean we are farming like a few miles from the air base at fairford we have really loud spy planes bombers coming over regularly and there's nothing that more that focuses your mind on what you're doing with your life than when you can it's so in your face what's happening in the rest of the world I mean the world is literally burning at the moment and it is I mean I actually try not to listen to the news too much because it's pretty scary out there but I feel, yeah, I don't know.

I was trying to think about where this came from the other day, that like commitment to wanting to do something good with the world.

Well, like in the world.