Anne Bogart

And he was the first person who introduced me to this idea of the viewpoints, which since then I've gone on to study so much more.

Ellie and I have both studied the viewpoints with Anne Bogart and with the City Company as just a way of talking about space and time on stage and maybe de-centering the importance of character and plot to just also talk about these other elements like rhythm and space and composition.

But back then in high school, this is something now that I teach, but back in high school, I'd never heard of this before.

And Mr.

What is a Suzuki internship, which was a physical acting method that then led me to the conservatory at Trinity Rep. Trinity Rep is a major regional theater in Providence, Rhode Island.

I went to work with Anne Bogart, who is an avant-garde director and divisor of theater she resigned after one year and she chose our class and most of my class left after she resigned so i never did get a master's in theater um but i got my equity card and i knew i didn't want to hit new york until i was a member of the union because i wanted to be paid

And along the way in your journey, you've worked with a number of mutual friends, including the wonderful Ken Stack.

And you worked with him both at Penobscot Theatre and at Acadia Repertory Theatre.

I think a lot of choreographers use it.

I think there are some, you know, kind of pioneering directors like Anne Bogart who developed that process.

I don't actually know a lot about it, so I think I've done this kind of, like...

I picked up bits over the years, but I've never studied it.

Um, nope.

What I, what I mean by ideal audience doesn't mean like it's made up of these people, but like, um, and Bogart used to say that whenever she was making a show, she always imagined that Bertolt Brecht and Gertrude Stein were in the audience.

I love that.

And I always used to say that I thought that my mom and Anne Bogart were in the audience.

Nice.

I can't be too highbrow that my mom doesn't enjoy it because it's so highfalutin and intellectual.