And I guess when we're looking at expectations if we do a book and what we're looking to cause, like what should we-- what should our expectations be kind of starting out?

That's the most important thing, and that's why we turn down, I would say, three-quarters of the people that work out.

Yesterday, we'd been in negotiations for months with somebody, and I could just tell her expectations, it was just gonna be a mutually frustrating experience, so I just-- I said, "Let's cancel before we start." If somebody comes to me and says, "I wanna be on the New York Times list," I know they're not, they're, they're not a realistic person.

If they say, "I want to, um...

How much money am I gonna, gonna make? Oh, we better price my book at $25 'cause I wanna make the most," I know they're not the right person.

Um, it is so important with books to temper expectations.

I'm somebody who had six miserable book launches because I kept thinking, "Well, I'm on the Today Show, I'm gonna sell a million books." Now I only have amazing book launches because I only rely on the things I can control.

Right

Yeah.

But I will say my parents met him, right? So my, um, parents, we were in, um, my ho- my, for my grandfather's funeral.

This was, again, in the, like, early '90s.

Uh, my parents came into to h- Boston, and I was like, "Okay, you're gonna meet my new boyfriend, Matt." And so we...

Okay, what happened? Hold on.

We, w- uh, we were staying in a hotel in, um, Cambridge, and I went...

I had my own room.

So what do they do?