Ann Taylor

I didn't hate what I was doing, but I mean, I'm not laughing at you, but yeah.

I thought I needed to be, I'm very psychoanalytically trained, and I thought I needed to be that sort of tell me more, let me hold space, wearing itchy Ann Taylor suits kind of therapist for a really long time.

The big necklace.

And the shawl.

at so many different locations and places and websites.

So Ann Taylor has a lot to offer.

Target, J.

Crew, you could do Macy's and Nordstrom's.

You can, I mean, the stores are just like, where to get the fashion? Basically, it's everywhere.

But especially Ann Taylor, because they got like a lot of browns.

I mean, It's just so much.

Ann Taylor is offering a lot.

And I'm curious, what do you think it was going to look like and what do you think about it now? Whether you've reached your own version of success or not, just kind of do a little compare and contrast for us.

I mean, I grew up, my success pattern was from the 90s, you know, Ann Taylor with heels.

I wanted to basically live in New York City and dress in sexy business wear.

I

Guys, I must have been 25 years old.

I had two suits from like Ann Taylor.

Wow.

And I had never lived in a big city.

And you do tend to see an old, young kind of clash.

And you're going to, I mean, a lot of the brands that went after a particular female segment like Talbot or... or even Ann Taylor, they stayed loyal to their aging consumer, but it was hard to bring in young people.

And it's kind of a, especially in as a trendy a category as you're in, and you're telling us, you're chasing after new styles and new trends.

You do kind of have that – do you see what I'm saying? That clash in – and even your demographic band is pretty high.

They're having a-

Have you, have you reached out to, I don't know, Ann Taylor or, uh, any of these types of, to say, "Hey, what about a Barb and Star-"

It's actually a good idea.

Collab

It was very odd.

What was it? Ann what? What's the name?

An- Ann Taylor Loft.

Ann Taylor Loft.

[laughs]

My, uh, my mom was a big fan of Casual Corner.

Too big." And I always liked, uh...

What was the one...