Ann Mettler

The electrostates, meaning China, basically, who has dominated the entire clean tech industry.

So they are now fully... vertically integrated and they dominate the not the mining maybe not so strictly but everything else from processing to refining to manufacturing to building the final clean tech products china has come to dominate all of that so the the question for europe is how can we set up our made in europe mind to clean tech value chains and become less dependent on China mainly because that's the ultimate dependency of course so we had a podcast episode with Ann Mettler and she put it very clearly that we've not only in a situation where we have become dependent on the fossil fuel countries, but now we're also completely dependent for our clean technologies.

And that's a very dangerous situation to be in.

For example, all our solar panels, They have inverters in those solar panels built in.