Ankit Panda

And North Korea is just like way out there in front of Russia and China, right? Like much, much lower threshold for nuclear use.

Our guest is Ankit Panda, Stanton Senior Fellow in the Nuclear Policy Program at the Carnegie Endeavorment for International Peace and author of the book, The New Nuclear Age at the Precipice of Armageddon.

Mr. Panda, thank you for your time and welcome to Frontlines and Backrooms.

It is a great pleasure to open season three with you.

Like, you, you don't have bus time, but you do need the time to, you know, get out in the atmosphere and then eject the shroud before you can dump the RV.

And we had some numbers, I think from Ankit Panda's reporting, right? Back when Ankit was a, was a reporter before he transitioned to being a, a think tanker.

Yeah.

I think Ankit got, uh, a, uh, unnamed US official-

I'm one of your hosts, Katie Potts, coming to you from Washington, D.C.

And this is Ankit Panda, still in the Catskill Mountains in upstate New York for a little bit of a summer break.

Oh, so jealous.

Uh, well, anyway, as usual, the news rolls on.

I'm one of your hosts, Katie Putt, coming to you from Washington, DC.

And I'm your other host, Ankit Panda, not in Washington, still in beautiful upstate New York in the middle of the woods.

Uh, that sounds lovely, but no woods are far enough to get away from the news, Ankit.

That's entirely true.