Anita Phillips

And I want you to know that two of my friends wrote incredible books to keep you growing in your faith in those categories.

So Dr. Anita Phillips wrote a book called The Garden Within.

Get that book.

Bianca Juarez, she wrote a book called Grit Don't Quit.

Like I've heard all of you teach and I've seen all of you lead and I've seen all of you pastor.

And I would say at my church, no one would say like, this woman has it all together.

This one, oh

man,

You live in a beautiful space.

You live in a beautiful place.

You are a beautiful woman.

You're a New York Times bestselling author.

Mm.

And one of the things that we always did was partner with these brilliant Christian psychologists and, um, psychiatrists, so Dr. Kurt Thompson, Deborah Fileta, Dr. Anita Phillips.

And so I would just, like, pull on their expertise, interview them on the podcast, take some of their different strategies and knowledge.

Jim Cress.