Andy Hargreaves

I forget the exact title.

It's by Andy Hargreaves.

And right in the very first statement, they say there's just too much evidence that working together has success for kids.

The question isn't should we work together? It's how.

And no, uh, no, hang on, hang on.

I haven't fin- Andy Hargreaves thought I did something good.

Just saying.

No.

Um, and, and I wasn't even giving a paper.

I, I got in at the last minute to be a discussant of somebody else's paper.

And, and I remember walking down one of the streets in New Orleans and, uh, this woman about 15 years older than me, uh, just strolled straight across the road and introduced herself to me And she said, "Oh, yeah, you're Andy Hargreaves, no?" "Yes." She said, "Well, I'm Anne Lieberman." So Anne Lieberman I think the next year became the president of the American Educational Research Association.

She, uh, ran a center at Teachers College, Columbia on, uh, educational reform.