Talk a little bit about how you managed that with both the boys, being a coach and then dad, and how did the boys handle that?

So I always say I actually liked being able to coach and being on the field with those guys as opposed to sitting in Section 115 at Fancy Park and watching the ninth inning or being in the Bronx in Yankee Stadium.

But I always enjoyed that part of it, being able to coach them and be around.

But I also thought, especially when they were younger, they kind of had to perform – uh, a little better than everyone else.

And then some, you know what I mean? And, uh, one of the things about David, David probably is a sophomore.

He probably was good enough to be our one or two guy, but it was just like, we had another senior who was good.

He was good.

Looking back, what advice would you give to yourself if you could go back and what advice would you give to parents that are in that mix now as high school, you know, with all the portal, all the transfer stuff and name, image and likeness? What would you say to them as far as their experiences today and what you might have done differently or might have done better or more of?

and then he makes an all-star team was 22 and 23 were his two all-star appearances right so a year later he's an all-star then in 2024 he's getting his ass kicked and he gets demoted to triple a how do you ride the ups and downs with your son and what do you say to him when he's struggling on the biggest stage of them all

I looked at it from two different perspectives.

I had the high school coach in me that plays a 20-game season where every single inning matters to the course of a 162-game season where you're going to have some ups and downs.

And as a closer, and then I would say the father of a closer, you really have to do a good job of keeping that middle ground.

And it's...

Way more challenging for me than him.

He's pretty much, you know, cool, calm, and collective with a lot of that stuff, but not his old man.

And they never went on first or middle.