Andrew Rowe

Last year in particular, it hit three times what capability we have, three times oversubscribed.

And then, as outgoing NCI director Andrew Rowe said yesterday, that is also the case most recently in the recent allocation scheme allotment that closed last week, that's sitting at about two point nine times oversubscribed.

So we're looking basically over the last two years, it's three times oversubscribed across the two years.

You know, I think we've hit crazy levels now, right? And they're very much making the case that there needs to be proper government investment in public infrastructure to allow the sort of research that needs to take place.