A fine answer, though.

Uh, he's, he's a big boy.

Um, God.

[lips smacking] Uh, Joe was smart to pass on this one.

Geez.

Um, I'll go with, uh...

Geez, I'm gonna just go a random, random name here.

... two Xs already.

atlas on the list jake atlas is not although he did appear and it did on the survey and that did remind me that he was in one point signed by aw

okay let's see um is mel on the list Mel is not on the list.

Did they really regret signing Mel? I don't know.

I'm just thinking of obscure names to go with here that didn't really pan out.

This is tricky.

Two strikes against you.

I know.

So it's two X's already.

So when you think about those last couple of years, what were some of the intentional things that you and your staff were doing to continue pushing that program forward?

Yeah, I think it was we got older.

It was, you know, we the last two years we've been we've been older teams.

The you know, this we had we had an amazing group of of seniors this last year that graduated.

We had a great group of seniors that graduated the year before.

And those guys had been in the program for.

you know, for, for a full four years, they, they ran the whole gauntlet.

When everybody's back on campus and you're in person, what kind of things do you do to set a tone, whether it's culturally, expectations? Is that where it starts or is it no? Is it starting now with those phone calls and Zooms and whatever else that looks like?

Is it, is it about a diagnosis or more about a functional capacity, how it plays out and someone presents and does their job?

Yeah.

So there's...

I mean, under the, um, the disability discrimination legislation, y- you don't need to have a diagnosis to start a conversation about what a reasonable adjustment might be.

And equally, even though the law is sitting there, there's no reason why, in a practical sense, y- you can't start that conversation, and it's really about listening.

So I think what often happens is that people bring preconceptions to the table.

Often things are quickly become legal or become overly medicalized.

Have you seen that?