Andrew R. Gallimore

Or, as some people believe, these things are actually existing in the world.

That's a whole other sort of ontology if you're in the Andrew Gallimore field of these entities being real and, you know, divorced from us.

But I think that DMT in increased concentrations, yes, not fully psychedelic concentrations, could be having some effect to this entity.

You know, and...

And my work, it's very McKenna-like.

It goes further into the death by astonishment by Gallimore.

I don't know if John ever did DMT, which is a chapter in my book.

It's my favorite, in many ways, my favorite chapter because it's something just seemed to click in which...

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Gallimore and Strassman, whose works I very much like and respect and admire.

I made, by the way, chapter seven of my book is devoted to the DMT phenomenon.

There's one

argument that I really love employing by Dr. Andrew Gallimore that actually puts that idea that you need to necessarily just observe it over longer and longer periods of time with more and more people to actually say something substantial about it.

It's true.

However, the fact that the brain doesn't make up content should be a hint as to the fact that actually something real is going on.

that we don't perceive because we don't really need to and that evolution does not set us up to perceive reality in the truest sense and like the principal sense but our senses help us to evolve and to survive and so that's what we're outfitted for as human beings that we don't need to see all these things birds have extra cones in their eyes like they can see a different spectrum of light than we see so as far as perception is involved in this consciousness conversation and how perception influences their understanding of reality they live in a subtly different reality than we live in not only because they're birds and obviously they're processing and computational power of course but even just the things that they see like if you were dropped in with your consciousness into a bird's mind you would see the world vastly differently and he describes this like the the computer interface like when you open up your computer and you're dealing with like your desktop and you see files on the desktop that's not the computer like there's binary and ones and zeros and like hardware inside there's an entire world and system in the computer and you are using the ui you're using this computer interface in order to manage and deal with it and i think it's the best sort of example to sort of get me on to understand like okay we're using an operating system and those are our senses and that is how we perceive reality but it is not the totality of of what reality is so now that there's this gray area it's like well to suggest that there's an additional reality that can be induced through dmt other psychedelics it's like why not that could just be an extension of this thing it's like we call it spiritualism or woo or whatever but maybe that is just a physics or a tech a science that we just don't really have the words for or the ability to test So I'm curious for you, before even DMT, what were the other psychedelic experiences and what did you ascertain from them? Can you give me stories and examples of what those experiences were like?

Yeah, but just if you don't mind, I just want to say a couple of words about what you just said.

So in fact, I don't know if you noticed, but the Trace Institute, which is what Don's project now became, where they're fully working this out with mathematicians and physicists, they They're actually collaborating now with Andrew Gallimore, the guy who I just told you about.

I didn't know that.

So Strassman is one of the first researchers given a license to possess DMT and to give it in a controlled setting.

Also, Andrew Gallimore, a marvelous researcher, wrote a book last year called Death by Astonishment.

And also, You're absolutely right.

Rather than the mainstream view is, oh, people take DMT or anything like it, but let's stick with DMT.

And so, you know, DMT, where is that information coming from? You know, that's the thing.

The best book I've ever read on DMT is Andrew Gallimore's book, called Death by Astonishment.

I don't know if you've run across that, Shane.

I recommend that book.

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So the payoff will be that by not having our theories stuck in a space time headset, allowing us to have a model in which we take conscious experiences as our foundation and space-time as a trivial headset that experience can build, then we're opened up to a broader range of phenomena that I think we have some empirical evidence needs to be explored.

Very cool.

I was thrilled to see your collaboration with Andrew Gallimore.

I'm a huge fan.

But i- interestingly, more and more the neuroscientists in the DMT space have been bringing up UFO type phenomenology and experiences more.

You know, I just finished Andrew Gallimore's book, Death by Astonishment.

He's one of the leading DMT researchers in the world, and he draws the parallels between the DMT experience and DMT phenomenology, and UFO abduction experience and phenomenology.

And this whole intersection is also really interesting to me.