Andrew Norton

In the sector which is partially funded, i.e. government doesn't fund the place, but the university gets the student contribution.

And it's a particular point that Professor Andrew Norton from Monash University has done a lot of analysis on.

And Mr Harris from the 2050 Alliance says, Professor Norton is an expert on the higher education system and his perspective is very valuable.

And that's why we need to make sure the government's allocating sufficient places so that we can bring more students into the system.

Then there were three people appearing in their private capacity.

Mark Warburton, who's an honorary fellow at Melbourne University Centre for the Study of Higher Education and a former Commonwealth official appearing in a private capacity.

Professor Andrew Norton from Monash University.

And Professor Clive Smallman, who's previously been a dean at, I think, Western Sydney University, but is now a consultant and sits on a number of academic and similar boards for a number of private providers.