Yep.

So you will see the gathering of evidence for the plaintiff with their experts.

You'll see the same with the defendant insurance companies and the lawyers representing them seeking experts that might have an opinion that might be slightly different.

Having said that, I've seen medical evidence and medical reports come back where the defendant was even more sympathetic than a plaintiff.

I have too.

Which is fine.

It's all about opinions at the end of the day.

strange

Uh, for somebody that maybe doesn't know this community, how does one get into the incel community and, and then how do they get out?

Yeah, yeah.

So I mean, there, there's ...

I've, I've got, like, the, this interesting experience where I've, I've, I've worked with guys who are involved in the incel community, and now I'm onto more of the research side where I'm, I'm doing like the analyst stuff.

Um, I think anecdotally, like the stories are sometimes more helpful.

Um, so, you know, for example, um, here's like a typical, not like, no identifying information, this is sort of a mishmash of, of clients that I've worked with.

But you might see like a guy who's in, in high school, and he'll have like lots of different vulnerabilities or a couple different vulnerabilities that lots of students have.

Are there any signs that a parent can watch for? I, I know that the, um, the accused is 25 years old, but is there any sign that parents can watch out for that their son might be an incel?