Andrew Klavan

And this is what makes it all the more weird that JD Vance is caving to this stuff and... or maybe not caving, but catering to it, playing footsie with it.

A- and I, I'm gonna show you another example of it just now on the Sean Spicer Show because the, the, the reason why I say it's surprising is that actually many people seem to think, whether it's people like Andrew Klavan or others, that people like Tucker Carlson and other, their, their standing in the Republican world is, is on the decline.

And actually a lot of their audience is coming from outside the Republican world, be it leftists, be it foreign viewers actually.

That was something that Batya Ungar-Sargon, the journalist, said.

I feel like I'm going back to kindergarten having to explain this stuff.

But Andrew Klavan, another conservative commentator, reflects on the descent of Tucker Carlson that we've seen in recent years.

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And I'll put the link to the full video with Andrew Klavan in the video description.

So that's on the left.

And meanwhile, on what I guess is still the right, Tucker Carlson, I don't think he's a conservative anymore, but he's still one of the most popular podcasters in the country.

Like it's repulsive.

And then also the other, like, guys running the Charlie Kirk podcast, Andrew Klavan, Blake Neff, they also have a negative charm level.

Now, it's not neutral.

It- it's certainly not positive, like this is a charismatic leader that's gonna attract more people.

It's clearly some weird misunderstanding that right-wingers are not only running with, but then doubling down on.

One of the most prolific spreaders of this lie, Turning Point USA's Andrew Klavan, said, "It genuinely doesn't matter if it was a mental health hospital or the flu.

Bailing on the biggest job interview of your life by disappearing for two weeks is damning by itself." What are we doing here? He's like, "It genuinely doesn't matter if he was sick," like every human gets sick, "or if it was this made-up lie about him being in a mental health hospital.

It could be either/or." Dude, dawg, the own facility came out and said he's never received treatment, and then Talarico said, "I've never even been to Ohio." The reality is Talarico very clearly got sick for about a week.

James Talarico got a little bit sick a month before the election, and they tried to spin it as if he were in a mental health facility.

They all collectively gaslit themselves and their followers into believing this, and then you had some of the most famous people in the country pushing it.

You had people like Grant Cardone, people like Elon Musk, people like Megyn Kelly, Andrew Klavan.

There are dozens of other right-wingers, probably hundreds, who were pushing this online, and it was a pure lie because they were trying to distort the truth and gaslight the American people.