Andrew Conway

I suppose go into that and yeah, just trust, have deep levels of trust and yeah, it'll all work out.

I know you do a lot of mental work with Andrew Conway.

Have you kind of leaned on him during this period in terms of that unknown? Is that something you've talked about a good bit?

It is, yeah, absolutely.

Working with, I call him Palmer, but Andrew, Andrew Conway, yeah, he's been amazing.

Him and you see where 5X flows, his company name, but where that's going is amazing.

Worked with him two seasons ago and we've been working together now since.

And I just think you sometimes you can undervalue the leadership presence, and there is a lot of big leadership gone in the last number of years.

If you think of Peter, Connor, Keith Earls, Archer, John Ryan, you know, Simon Zebo, um, they're the kind of homegrown ones that, you know, Andrew Conway went as well, and, you know, players who were, you know, very much ingrained in it and very passionate about their performances, um, they, they're gone.

So there was a big kinda leadership foil.

And look, that happens with teams.

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I know you do a lot of mental work with Andrew Conway.

Have you kind of leaned on him during this period in terms of that unknown? Is that something you've talked about a good bit?

It is, yeah, absolutely.

Working with, I call him Balmer, but...

Andrew Conway, yeah, he's been amazing.

Him and you see like where 5X Flows, his company name, but where that's going is amazing.

Worked with him two seasons ago and we've been working together now since.

But the one-to-ones, the music that's there, you're really, you're trying to communicate the message to the people, to the people, to the people, to the people, to the people, to the people, to the people, to the people, to the people, to the people, to the people, to the people, to the people, to the people, to the people, to the people, to the people, to the people, to the people, to the people, to the people, to the people, to the people, to the people, to the people, to the people, to the people,

The last time you spoke to him, when you were talking to Tony Griffith around the block, I think it was Andrew Conway speaking to him.

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Now, we've had players over the years, obviously, have gone from Munster to Leinster a couple, and probably more Leinster guys come down and play with Munster.

You know, Felix Jones came, Niall Ronan, Andrew Conway.

like I played with Niall Rowan and Felix Jones and you know they were accepted because probably at the time they weren't starting they hadn't a big body of work achieved and done with Leinster it does happen but this is a kind of more real high profile this passionate guy from who played with Munster for so long you know won two European Cups against them so the one thing I will say and I probably say this really believe in it I think the players would love him

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