... to, "Okay, we've got an issue here"?

Yeah.

That's, so it was really in college where that's when I began becoming discipled and I gave my, um, life to Christ my freshman year, kind of over winter break, and that's when I, I was actually at conference and went to a breakout that was just about pornography.

It was a Christian conference, and, uh, it was about it.

I looked at some brain scans, and I just, like, saw the actual differences.

That's [laughs] you know, someone who's on actual, like, you know, meth versus someone who's on pornography, how some of these brain scans are looking worse for the person on pornography just the, because of the havoc it's actually having on your brain.

Um, it's pretty...

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