Andrew Bonney

And there are a couple of research programs that will help answer a few questions, which I think will make an enormous difference here and nationally.

So there's an Optimist GP research consortium led by Andrew Bonney and his group, and they're looking at implementation of research effectively AMS in primary care? What are the things that actually work? What influences those interactions and that decision-making in primary care? And we'll see now whether the education that has occurred just by virtue of the pandemic has influenced that trend or whether we've

all just gone back to where we were because it's been...

Yeah, maybe.