Andreas Malm

And if we carry that historical metabolic lens forward, we arrive at the central question of modern industrialization energy.

How did we turbocharge this exploitation of nature? To answer this, the list highly recommends Andreas Malm's book Fossil Capital.

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This is a meticulous, deeply researched study of the Industrial Revolution in Britain, asking a very specific, almost counterintuitive question.

I mean, there's...

Uh, speaking of books, this sort of makes me think of Andreas Malm, right? How To Blow Up A Pipeline.

Uh, I, I referenced it in art that I, uh, think slaps, and that we should have called the podcast How To Blow Up A York Pool, but no one likes to have my ex- absurdly long titles.

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Just a year earlier, the supposedly dangerous climate activist wrote a passionate defense for non-violent action.

In answer to Swedish author Andreas Malm, Hallam's book is called How to Blow Up a Society: The Derangement of Left Fascism.

Here to talk about it all is Roger Hallam from the UK.

Roger, welcome to Radio EcoShock.