Andre Miller

He kind of reminds me of like...

Andre Miller, kind of the way that he navigates in the, the mid range.

And then all of a sudden we'll pull up for like a mid range jump shot or take it all the way to the rim for this old man, like reverse layup or whatever.

But on the defensive end of the floor, I mean, you see all those qualities that, you know, Marcus smart sort of gave the Lakers, uh, with regards to, you know, drawing charges or just staying in front of his man or coming in from the weak side for the blocks, stripping the ball loose, like competing for rebounds.

Obviously, he's not a point guard point guard, but if you need him to run a pick and roll in a pinch, it seems like he can do that.

And also, again, to your point about how he navigates his way into the paint, it's like, how is he continuing to get through the trees like this? And I think it's because of that...

natural Andre Miller-esque pace game that he has where he'll lull you to sleep.

And then all of a sudden he'll just quick first burst to the rim and then lay it in.

Legendary.

That team was led by Andre Miller.

Shout out to the Nuggets, man.

He put in nearly 30 on the Razorbacks in that game on that day.

But it got me wondering.

What were some of the playing weights of guys at Utah back in the day? Like, what was Mike Doliak's playing weight, or Andre Miller's, or Keith Van Horn? I bet Keith Van Horn was in the neighborhood of what Alec Angibata is, 6'9", 225, something like that.

And I'm guessing that somebody out there has an old program that could tell me some of those heights and weights.

I'm looking at you, Peace, Love, and Utes, over on X.

Terrell Brandon needs to be remembered as one of the better Cavalier point guards.

Then at number four, we have Andre Miller.

He was more of the early 2000s Cavs key G.

He was.

Led the league in assists.

He also made all-star games for the Cavaliers and was just a rock-solid staple in the lineup.

Like, you knew what you were getting from Andre Miller.

He was our best player a few of those seasons.

We might have to go back to 83, Ricky.

D'Alembert, Iguodala, Andre Miller, Reggie Evans, Lou Williams.

So that

was 07 to 08.

Not Mikael's stuff.

One of my best friends because I was a huge Andre Miller fan.

Okay.

He just randomly bought me a Andre Miller Cleveland jersey.

I think I still have it.

Just because it was an authentic one.

And that's one of those things where this is a great example.

This is a guy that won a national championship, could have been a first-round pick, decided to go back to school, and still they lost in the Elite Eight to Andre Miller and a great team, and they were number one in the country, and he was first-team All-American, and gets drafted in the second round.

sprains his ankle in training camp and just never got a chance this guy turned down millions of dollars right turned down millions of dollars and if he could have gone to school he could have made a couple hundred grand on his likeness he could have done some stuff that could have set him up further yeah but like what do you say to the guy do you want guys to go stay in school if i know that i'm making 50 grand a year that i can help my family out maybe i'll stay in school longer and maybe actually get that education and maybe get that education I was like, dude, I'm good.

Like I'm making 75 grand.

They traded two starters and an unprotected first for Bill Walton, who had broken feet and ended up having 35 surgeries.

Players they stupidly gave away or lost since the NBA merger in 1976, mentioned Moses and McAdoo, Adrian Dantley, Terry Cummings, Tom Chambers, Danny Manning, Lamar Odom, Andre Miller, and Elton Brand.

That's just in the 33-year span from '76 to 2009.

They traded future firsts for World B.

Where are the veterans? I like that they brought in Kevin Looney, right? even if he's not exactly the ideal guy.

But why aren't you bringing in guys who fit around the players that you're actually trying to build around so that you can have some structure? Like, why did Andre Miller play for 1,000 years, right? Because he ran a team.

You can learn from guys like that.

I remember growing up watching the Bulls, and they trade for Antonio Davis.