Amy Wax

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important in talking about Amy Wax to separate her speech in a number of different contexts.

She had public statements, public statements that she made that the black students at Penn weren't as qualified as the white students, that she'd never had a black student finish in the top quarter of her class, and so on.

She had the right to make those public statements.

The smaller the aperture gets, your ability to use controversial subjects gets narrower, if that makes sense.

Yes, in the sense that what somebody says publicly is protected by the First Amendment unless it's one of the narrow categories of speech that's unprotected.

So I would defend the right of Amy Wax to say anything she wants on a podcast or an op-ed or a media interview.

On the other hand, when you're dealing with one-on-one interaction with students, there are limits there, and it's not speech in the same way protected by the First Amendment.

campuses.

Amy Wax.

She winds up blipping the data or she's in the scours under fire database quite a few times.

The way we set those up, though, actually, is the penalties can range.

If Asians hadn't existed...

Amy Wax has recently spoken at the American Renaissance Conference, a professor of law at Penn.

Now, there are many people who have spoken at American Renaissance who I don't think contributed to the conversation, but I don't have any relationship with American Renaissance.

I don't...