Which makes me venture on to my next question, which is, please share with us and our audience brief insights into your current roles in wellness medicine and survivorship care.

I'm happy to go first.

Thank you for your comments, Jasmine.

You know, so I should just state like when I learned about lifestyle medicine back in the day when I attended that conference, I got to meet Dr. Beth Brady's and wanted to start a lifestyle medicine based survivorship program for women with breast cancer because I saw there was a need for this.

There really wasn't anything like that, certainly in the Boston area.

And that's sort of what led to the development of the paving program, which I started with Dr. Brady's back in pre-COVID 2019.

And as Dr. Tollefson noted, we transitioned to a virtual program in 2020, and it does remain that way at this time, and it continues to grow.

What have you guys experienced in your practices, both for lifestyle and survivorship? Do we get good reimbursement for these practices? Such an important

be divided up throughout the

week, 10 minutes here and there, but really trying to get to 150 minutes.

And that could be brisk walking, cycling, jogging, whatever a person loves, and then trying to get in two sessions of some type of resistance training each week.

And that doesn't mean going to a fancy gym.

You can do body weight exercises regularly.

Find something on YouTube, whatever you like.

So that's exercise.

As I said, paving is like...