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so it's, they're like a combination of some, like a really sort of intense apocalyptic group, Jesus is coming back any time.

Um, and they also, the, the thing, what's interesting is some people were annoyed by the women participating and prophesying and preaching and doing these things.

Um, other people were annoyed by their apocalyptic v-views.

Uh, but none of that is sort of grounds, you know, at least at this point, for real problems and censure by the church.

Uh, what ended up being, at least r- at the outset, the issue that the sort of broader church community had with them was the fact that they paid their pastors.

Yeah, yeah.

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[laughs] Um, so, uh, there , the early church was...

I mean, you'll find, you'll find all sorts of things that, that people say.

I mean, uh, there was, there's some really particularly nasty stuff.

I mean, uh, Lynn mentioned anti-Judaism earlier, but there's a ton a, there's, there's a lot of nasty stuff around, um, like, uh, especially a little bit later, um, when you have a pretty established tradition of the church of early Christian virgins, like consecrated virginity.

Um, like, the language that's around, like, what happens when a virgin falls, um, how basically there's no way for her to be redeemed even in the waters of baptism.

Like, there's a Nic- I think it's Nicetas of Remesiana, if I get his name right.

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