Amherst

Because Richard Shaver, who talked about this civilization beneath the surface of this planet in a series of science fiction stories, which were published and pushed as real stories or based on real stories in the pages of Amazing Stories, science fiction's largest pulp magazine printed here out of Chicago back in the 40s.

After that, Shaver turned to believing he'd found rocks in his property in Amherst, Wisconsin, down the road from me initially, and then later in summer in Arkansas when he moved there, that proved his theory that there was this pre-diluvial space-faring civilization lived in prior the flood and then he started making art from these images that he was able to extract from these rocks anyway brian emmerich owns the majority of the richard shaver artwork that still survives so i obviously wanted him in the documentary and brian was very kind and said um yeah i'll help you and come and film anything i've got and he was incredible interview subject and he's since come on board as a producer of the the feature film as well the man who invented flying saucers and uh the short the shaver mystery Um, so we were able to go to Jersey and then double up on that trip cause it wasn't too far and just get an Uber, which you booked.

Thankfully, that's why you're such a wonderful producer.

And you got me to Brian Emmerich's house and we spent a day with Brian, just interviewing him, filming his stuff.

He's talking about, um, when, when Sam was mentioning when we were at the retirement village, um, When we were in Arkansas.

So yeah, that's a trip that is super close to my heart as well.

So although we've done a lot of other shaver stuff, you've been to Raymond Palmer's original property, which is in Amherst, which his son still owns.

You've got to meet and hang out with you and me and Brian Emmerich and his wife with Raymond B. Palmer, Raymond Palmer's son.