So people might have forgotten he's been a guest on this show once or twice over the years, but tell us about Tommy Norman, because you actually knew him and worked with him very closely.

Actually, I did, and just to give you a little history, for me personally, when I first came to the State Senate and I was elected 2015, started in 2016, finished in 2023, and he was the Senate majority leader for the Republican Senate caucus when I first entered the Senate.

And then we were in the minority, so he was the minority leader.

And some people may not know what a caucus leader is, because it sounds like an infection.

And I would probably argue that it is.

But a caucus is basically all the Republicans And my Republican colleagues, we would have powwows or meetings right before we would go on the floor of the Senate.

And the caucus was basically, you know, a conference or group of Republicans that served together in the same body.

But it