Alton Ochsner

So

the problem with tobacco, I also found references to in the 50s and 60s, the head of American Cancer Society, Alton Ochsner, saying in passing to someone that prior to 1930, there was no lung cancer in the United States or practically none.

And he said that at some point he was As a medical student, he was awakened in the middle of the night to observe a case because it was so rare.

And I was like, wow, this is interesting because smoking was pervasive.

So I spent time at Tulane.

The guy that gave me the vaccine against cancer was Dr. Ochsner.

And these people were involved in very strange neuroscience research.

as well as behavioral therapy.