Altium Designer

Yeah, that makes sense.

And again, it's kind of the same thing that I think PCB designers tend to do with their PCB projects is they'll have templates, like project templates that you can do in Altium Designer.

You basically do the same thing here with now just green pack chips.

Yes, yes,

Right

... to train how to use Altium Designer? You're better off training to use KiCad or something, which is free.

So I think-

Well, no-

Right.

[laughs]

They're like, "Hey, we're doing all these tools for..." And often it's for Altium Designer 'cause they're chasing after-

Right.