When you were in law school, did you wind up interning or did you just wind up getting right into it with your first job?

Yeah.

So when I first got to law school, I thought I was going to actually do criminal defense work.

I I had a heart for people whose constitutional rights were being violated.

And so I thought I was going to do criminal defense work.

And so my internships actually at the beginning of law school were was really surrounded by that.

And that's what I learned.

Okay.