Allan Savory

And then I'm looking at the list of managed framework on the wall behind you.

I got Alan Savory's book, a bit like you, and you think, okay.

And it was all kind of, it's all kind of, and I read those on as well, you know, all those kinds of things were floating around.

So it was like inevitable that I'd go from that really high data, like really intensive kind of thing or management intensive, which I know holistic management is management intensive, but moved a little bit further down that road.

yeah and you said

frozen so andre voisin grass productivity is the book i think yeah because we had someone on spotify ask specifically because i think we mentioned this in a previous podcast and they're like i couldn't hear what the name of the book was but so yeah grass productivity andre voisin i'd say that's the best book to read on grass really management

And Alan Savory says that as well.

Not that I'm saying you or him, but that's what he says, isn't it? But if you go back, you've got Robert Elliot in the 1800s, late 1800s, sorry.

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And if you're drawn to that, it can be a very fulfilling experience.

Your connection to land starts in large part with your great-great-grandfather and his legacy, Henry Sieben.

Reading about him, he came to the U.S. as a very young person, had lost his mother from Germany, lost his father in short succession after that.

And him and one brother followed, I believe, John Bozeman.

You know, like we shot some stuff outside of Cascade with the Sieben Livestock Company.

Cooper Hibbert, and he's embracing some of the aspects of Alan Savory's regenerative ranching concept.

And I have to be honest with you, the ranchers that I saw that were rising to the kind of that called the cream of the crop there were people that were embracing, I wouldn't say carte blanche, you know, but different aspects of what Alan Savory preaches, and I just spent, in March, I spent five days with him in his Ding Bang Gombe concession south of Vic Falls.

You know, he just came out with his memoir.

He's 90 years old, and I know that window's not getting any bigger, and so I wanted to go and spend some time with him.

You know, like we shot some stuff outside of Cascade with the Sieben Livestock Company.

Cooper Hibbert, and he's embracing some of the aspects of Alan Savory's regenerative ranching concept.

And I have to be honest with you, the ranchers that I saw that were rising to the kind of that called the cream of the crop there were people that were embracing, I wouldn't say carte blanche, you know, but different aspects of what Alan Savory preaches, and I just spent, in March, I spent five days with him in his Ding Bang Gombe concession south of Vic Falls.

You know, he just came out with his memoir.

He's 90 years old, and I know that window's not getting any bigger, and so I wanted to go and spend some time with him.