Alexei Shostakov

From an imperfect send-off to an OG Avenger that just sadly came too late, to a quietly brilliant title that finally figured out how to make the most out of some flawed heroes, talking about these two films together really is the best way to examine their impact.

Will Scarlett Johansson's Natasha Romanoff return in Secret Wars to complete the set of the OG6? And how did Yelena and the Thunderbolts reframe how we see the Avengers function in the MCU after Secret Wars? And assuming it's going to be one of the Thunderbolts who totally dies in Doomsday, who's it going to be? Congressman Bucky Barnes? Red Guardian Alexei Shostakov? The sad, doom-scrolling John Walker? Well, pour yourself a bowl of Thunderbolts Wheaties this Saturday morning and join us as we go down the road.

I don't think this was a good Black Widow movie, but I also don't know what a good Black Widow movie would have been.

The script is kind of all over the place.

the banter.

All right, Black Widow.

so black widow comes out on disney plus in 2021 in the summer and here's what we see when it begins it we're in ohio in the year 1995 two young girls sisters are kind of bike riding through this suburb playing with fireflies and doing a special whistle with each other and this is actually a young natasha romanoff and a young yelena belova when they're living in this kind of uh fx american style setup With their parents, their father, Alexei, their mother, Melina, David Harbour, and Rachel Weisz.

But they're actually Russian sleeper agents living with their two daughters.

Who do you think come in the same box?

Do you not have Ursa Major, Red Guardian?

That's the only thing I'm missing.

I have everything

jerk.

I'm not really playing a game anymore.

Dude, also, like, if you end up Stark armoring around Red Guardian, or sorry, around Crimson Dynamo, six dice beams? Zap, right? And just like, goodbye.

Oh, okay.

I know she doesn't have her sister anymore.

Also, I think she's just trying to get away from the Red Guardian.

She's in a

spa by herself.

I think this is her escaping the Red Guardian.

I think she's looking for alone time and her office is here because she just doesn't want to be with the new Avengers.

So she's the foil.

No,

it's White Widow and Red Guardian.

I know Taskmaster was a...

I don't even swear, but let's forget about

He was sat in front of us.

Very Red Guardian from Thunderbolts.

Think that, but in a bearskin.

But really, really good, like, brilliant one-liners, like him and Luke Hemsworth, like, worked off each other really good.

Um, I have, uh, which one do I do? Um, I'm just going to do what I've been saying all along when it comes to the Thunderbolts.

I want Red Guardian for no other reason than he's fun.

And I was this forced me to actually come up with, OK, but what would that be if we just had another cap? Like, what are we doing? I think you make him a strategist cap.

Let's just let's take the inspiration like morale boost side of cap and give it to Red Guardian's humor.

and uh just build a strategist around it so i i don't i still don't know what that would mean really but he would be in the back line you know just screaming being all excited and being backlined just screaming ah You know? Yeah.

I don't know.

I, I just want red guardian.

Okay.

It's Luke Cage.

I wouldn't mind doing Red Guardian because one of the things that I like about Red Guardian's card is that Red Guardian pays for it, not Onslaught.

That's

fair.

Yeah.

We have three, right, between Lockjaw,

Red Guardian, well, Lockjaw, one of them, and Blob.

Yeah, as long as we put one of those guys in.