Her number-one stress was the dowry, right? Because you're the youngest of six kids.

Yeah, people talk how much money this girl have.

W- what furniture, all this stuff.

Just, it's really stress.

Feel sorry for parents that days.

But what did Dad say to your mom and dad?

My parents, I pay for the ticket.

You don't have to pay even the ticket to come to America.

Especially after we shifted from doing all the information gathering and investigative work and started creating the podcast, did you still feel like it was an easy A?

Definitely not.

I feel like I really wanted to take the reins and go off with our group and be a leader and try and figure out what we had to do and direct people and tell them what to do.

And it's been a process trying to figure out how to incorporate everybody's ideas equally and put everybody's differing ideas together in a way that would make sense to an audience listening to a podcast.

Even though we've all had our differences and the things that we've been working on are kind of difficult and we've gotten stressed, but ultimately I think we have learned a lot about group work and working together and incorporating everybody's ideas in a way that [laughs] I don't know how to express it.

And I just, I'm really happy that I was, like, able to take this class because I really want all these people, all these families to get their closure that they've been needing for years.

I think these families or these people, we're giving them a voice and allowing them to be more than just what happened to them.

And I think that we need to focus on their lives and everything that happened apart from the horrible things that we're discussing here, and I think that they deserve to be remembered as more than just what happened to them.

Great.

Hi, Gary.

I'm Alexandra.

I'm the founder of Who is Amsterdam Tours.

We create storytelling-based walking tours around real human connection in Amsterdam.

So we bring locals into the tours-

That's cool.

It's 100%, it's 100% offline and 100% connection.

So- so when you're dealing with your doctor, um, what kind of, uh, things to- should you say to your doctor, uh, in order to, um, you know, have a relationship with him, to question what it is that they're, uh, giving to you? Let's start with that, with the doctor-patient relationship.

That's a great question.

I love it.

So when you go into a doctor, you are seeking a service.

They are providing expert advice, uh, based on the observations or any diagnostic tests or physical exams that they do in an appointment.

So the first thing that you want to make sure when you go to a doctor is that you understand the diagnosis.

About 20% of diagnoses are wrong in the United States.

Mm-hmm.

Uh, how did you get involved in all of this? What's your background?

Well, like you and probably most people listening today, uh, personal, uh, experience with pharmaceutical injury.

I was active duty military and, uh, there were several times when I was serving that I had an adverse reaction, but it wasn't enough for me to dive too deep into finding the inserts.

It was like, "Hmm, okay, I had a neck sprain and they gave me Oxycontin and I ended up having severe constipation.

That's odd." And it was just little things trickling here and there while I was serving that made me start questioning the products that I was blindly accepting.

And then, um, when I became a mother, or when I became pregnant, I was starting to become more natural minded and I was in my third trimester and the midwife handed me a one-page sheet on the T-Dap vaccine.

And I remember thinking, "This is very odd." I cannot have most medications, I can't have raw cheese or milk or any of these other things, and yet an injection just didn't make sense for me.

Yeah.

C'est ça ?

Oui, alors, euh, donc en CP, CE1 et CE2, c'est-à-dire pour les élèves de six, sept, huit ans, les maths sont complètement en français.

On fait également un peu ce qu'on appelle de renforcement sciences, où on apprend vraiment le, le vocabulaire basique qui va servir pour les classes un petit peu plus grandes.

C'est-- le programme de sciences, c'est ce qu'on appelle un programme assez spiralaire, c'est-à-dire qu'on, vraiment, on voit les bases en C-en CP et ensuite, on va, on va vraiment en profondeur au fur et à mesure qu'on évolue dans les classes supérieures.

Euh, on apprend également la littérature en français, euh, on utilise, on utilise une méthode de lecture française qui s'appelle Taoki.

On travaille également avec ce qu'on appelle la méthode Borel-Maisonny.

C'est une méthode dans laquelle chaque son de la langue est associé à un geste.

[musique relaxante] Est-ce que vous faites des cours de grammaire dans euh, dans ce programme en immersion ?

Mm-hmm.

So my advice would be that when you are first going to medical school, most medical providers go because they wanna help their patients, because they want to heal, because they want to see someone come into their office hurt and in pain and for them to leave to be better, and for them to understand that, uh, researching manufacturer inserts, researching potential non-pharmaceutical alternatives helps you do that, that pharmaceutical companies are not the arbiters of science.

They are not the only ones that exercise science in pursuit of health and in pursuit of wellness.

And I actually have an entire chapter of, of that in my book, and I cite from.gov resources.

I cite from the NIH about chiropractic care, about, um, ayurvedic care, about, uh, traditional Chinese medicine.

There are all these other models of health and healing that are accepted across the United States.

And there was a study that was done, and this was about 10 years ago, and I believe it was 30% of Americans have had some kind of experience with, uh, unconventional healthcare is what they would call it.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

I'm Alexandra, the CEO at Birbal, and our biggest need right now is money to market Birbal.

We plan to spend $50,000 a month in paid advertising, PR and partnerships.

You asked about our two-year plan.

Well, here are the numbers.

Year one is about laying a solid foundation to build upon.

That's why we're investing in people, process, product.

Hmm.