Alex Viada

Yeah.

Like, by definition, right? And, um, there's a guy, his name is Alex Viada, kind of a known hy- like OG hybrid athlete who wanted to see how far he could push strength training and, uh, like, endurance, endurance running.

Okay.

Not like the hybrid athlete now, where it's, like, mostly, like, sprints and plyos plus lifting.

How much is...

Like, that's, that's completely subjective and silly, because they clearly have a float phase.

And Alex Viada was very nice.

He's like, "Hey, man, that's totally fine," right? The sport's the sport.

And, you know, I learned from others.

There's people like Alex Viada, a great hybrid athlete that's done Ironman and ultramarathon.

I learned from him.

I looked at a lot of the top CrossFitters, what they were doing because they're extremely fit and mobile and agile, but huge at the same time.

Do you ever feel vindicated, like you were doing this before everyone made it popular to be doing triathlons or Ironman?

No, because like I said, there was people before me, like Alex, well, people, there was a person.

Alex Viada, you know, is somebody that I looked up to and it was him who I sought help from because here's this guy, he's pulling 700 pound deadlifts and now he's doing Ironmans and, you know, he's ripped to shreds.

He's like 230 pounds, but he's doing ultra marathon and stuff like that.

This is why I make the difference between capital H, capital X.

Hybrid athlete as a noun is Alex Viada, wrote the book, literally wrote the book 2012, I think, The Hybrid Athlete.

And the definition is training for non-complementary and seemingly conflicting capacities.

And the way Fergus Crawley would say, if you've got two things that are quite, so you could almost say powerlifting and weightlifting, you could say there's some complementary, there's some carryover.