From your experience, what would be the most common mistakes drivers make when encountering horses on the road? And why can these mistakes create such significant risks?

Well, there has been some research done on this, you know, with some academics that have put some reports in and it comes out every time is exactly the same.

But the reasons why there are so many incidents with horses is because of the speed of the vehicles passing.

There's also road rage.

I mean, 22 percent of those of last year's 2800 incidents reported to us were as a result of road rage.

And also driver misunderstanding of the control that the rider may have of the horse or actually misunderstanding what they see ahead of them as to what the horse is doing.

So, yeah, we're here to talk about that as well.

brilliant yeah okay so finally the looking ahead what do you think could be what do you what more do you think could be done in the driver training industry to improve awareness of horses and contribute to safer roads for riders carriage drivers and other road users now when I talk about the driver training industry I'm not just talking about the L market I'm talking about all so any uh company driver schemes and things like that what what do you think what would you like to see well