Akashinga

Okay.

So really to get clear on that, conservation is a climate issue because when you look at Akashinga's work and what they're doing, they are the first all-female anti-poaching unit in Africa, if I could be specific.

And a lot of their work is looking at or first understanding the challenges that women, especially in Zimbabwe, Botswana and Mozambique where they work, is the challenges that women are facing and why there is need for more women in conservation.

So taking these elements of how women nurture and then turning it into, or rather seeing how it looks like in this career space where there's this requirement for, you know, sort of this masculine energy.

But then also seeing how climate and changes in weather patterns do affect animals' migration and how... human wildlife conflict comes into play at that.

And so with Akashinga, it has been this, or at least the work that I did with Akashinga was, allowed me rather to see what climate and conservation, how they merge, what they look like and where women come in and why we should have more women in such spaces.

Before our

closing, I want to talk a bit about sisters in climate because you have pointed out that most of the climate finance that gets pledged at these conferences we're speaking about doesn't even reach the grassroots.