Aj Catanzaro

Then when you have one, you, you start to be able to be even more selfless.

And then when you have two, it's almost like, who is AJ Catanzaro? He's not even a human being anymore.

It just...

Yeah, I'm either working, which doesn't feel like it's for me, and I'm, I, I don't work nearly as much as I probably should, and I... or I'm doing something for Millie and, and River.

The less experience you have or the slower rider you are, the less you would ever access an exception.

That's why when you watch pros on TV, they're using exceptions the whole time, too much so, and they're making mistakes the whole time, which is why I always get the pushback of, well, AJ, you're telling me to ride with both feet on the pegs, but I watch the races and everybody's putting their feet out.

It's because they're using more exceptions than they should.

And also they're using exceptions because they're pros.

just so you know, we have a hard finish at 1.55, so 15 minutes.

Okay.

Hi, AJ.

My name's Ollie.