Air navigation service provider

And currently, there's only two universities that have that course in Turkey.

Other than that, ANSP trains their own ATC personnel.

So what they do is the requirement for that to be able to apply for the selection program is you have to have a bachelor degree and it doesn't matter in what course you have it.

And after you've been selected for the program, the ANSP trains its own air traffic controller.

And you have to finish all the modules it gives you.

And once you graduate, you start where the ANSP has appointed you to.

And that's basically how you become an air traffic controller in Turkey.

So where were you needed? Basically, what the ANSP does is say that I'm going to open an 80-person trainee program this year.

And in addition, we have to remember that we are in a very tough political situation with wars happening all over.

And there is a huge impact for closing the airspace and fuel costs increase and general uncertainty that also impacts the decisions of the airports, airlines, ANSPs, including the investment decisions.

The airports must meet very strict regulatory expectations regarding their capacity, resilience and decarbonisation.

For capacity, it means that there is a specific limit to what the airport can handle on a daily basis when it comes to arrivals and departures to make the airport operations safe.

Summer 2026 again showed that the timely airport inputs on capacity, constraints, local events, infrastructure works or passenger processing risks can really make a deal and a big difference for network planning and tactical coordination.

And the earlier we receive this information, the better we can introduce the common picture and support airports and other stakeholders with the right expertise.

I would also warmly encourage all the airports and ANSPs to become part of the network manager working arrangements and become a member of the airport operations team.

Today we have more than 120 members and this is an interesting consultation and coordination forum where you can bring operational expertise and discuss, raise any operational issues and we all work together on them, on deciding what the priorities will be and what kind of solutions we can introduce.

So that's the main reason why I'm a strong supporter of collaboration.

And it must be particularly important for an organization like yourself, one of the smaller ANSPs.

What sort of things have you learned in your 20 years from maybe some of those other either neighboring or larger ANSPs that you've talked to through your membership of Kanso?

Well, one thing I learned is that we have the same challenges.

Yeah.

That's one very important thing.

And as I mentioned already, together we can do so much more than alone.

And at the risk of, and apologies for throwing a slightly curveball question at you, but what do you think some of those larger ANSPs can learn from a kind of a smaller operational ANSP like yourself? What sort of things do you think you and your experience and DCNASP's experience can teach, I don't know, the FAA, let's say?