Air France Flight 447
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Sep 22, 2026
Cary ParkerHOST
Aviation learned, repeatedly and expensively, what happens when human skills atrophy inside that gap.
Cary ParkerHOST
The canonical example is Air France Flight 447, which fell into the Atlantic in 2009.
Cary ParkerHOST
The proximate cause was mundane.
Cary ParkerHOST
Iced-over airspeed sensors fed the autopilot bad data, and it did what it was designed to do.
Gideon EwersHOST
Forgive me, Russian friends, but, you know, it is a fixed-wing thing.
Gideon EwersHOST
The first big accident I worked on as part of a FAPA was, Air France 447, which was the one in the equatorial Atlantic.
Gideon EwersHOST
And talking about that, and reality was, you know, people zoomed in on the air data, the pitots and things like that.
Gideon EwersHOST
And yes, that obviously was a factor.
Jeff WiseHOST
I think it's worth noting that when MH370 investigators started the seabed search, they skipped a step, an important step.
Jeff WiseHOST
When you look at crashes like Air France 447, the normal process after a plane goes missing is to search for floating wreckage from the air, then use drift modeling to guess at where the impact point was that that debris had floated from.
Jeff WiseHOST
But with MH370, they never saw any surface debris.
Jeff WiseHOST
That's why they were left with such a huge area to search.
Steve GibsonHOST
aviation learned repeatedly and expensively what happens when human skills atrophy inside that gap.
Steve GibsonHOST
The canonical example is Air France Flight 447, which fell into the Atlantic in 2009.
Steve GibsonHOST
Proxima was mundane, iced over airspeed sensors, fed the autopilot bad data, and it did what it is designed to do.
Steve GibsonHOST
It disconnected and handed control of the airplane back to the crew.
Steve GibsonHOST
Aviation learned repeatedly and expensively what happens when human skills atrophy inside that gap.
Steve GibsonHOST
The canonical example is Air France Flight 447, which fell into the Atlantic in 2009.
Steve GibsonHOST
The pr- proximate cause was mundane.
Steve GibsonHOST
Iced-over airspeed sensors fed the autopilot bad data, and it did what it is designed to do.
speaker_0HOST
It is the night of May 31st, 2009.
speaker_0HOST
We are following Air France Flight 447.
speaker_0HOST
The aircraft is a modern state-of-the-art Airbus A330.
speaker_0HOST
It has just departed from Rio de Janeiro's Galeão Airport, and its destination is Paris-Charles de Gaulle, and on board are two hundred and twenty-eight people.
Herman PoppleberryHOST
And there have been incidents.
Herman PoppleberryHOST
The Air France 447 crash in 2009.
Herman PoppleberryHOST
The autopilot disconnected due to iced over pitot tubes.
Herman PoppleberryHOST
The aircraft reverted to manual control at high altitude.
Tony RomeoGUEST
And you start with your highest probability areas and you kind of work out from there.
Jeff WiseHOST
And what was the basis of that analysis? Was this kind of a Bayesian search like was done for Air France 447 where you have a last known position and then you kind of make some assumptions with varying degrees of probability?
Tony RomeoGUEST
Yeah, I think that's a good way of putting it.
Tony RomeoGUEST
We had information from Coast Guard planes.
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