67% is still a, a major majority, but that is down from 95% back in February.

It's, it's really reflective of the times.

I mean, you have 31%, the flip side of that disapproval is the 31% of 2024 Trump voters that are disenchanted.

They disapprove.

You have 30%, uh, overall approval from the Pew Research, um, Center here, and I think that this is indicative of what we've all seen, what we saw last night, Trump voters walking out of the rally because this, these rants hit different, you know, when he's in power.

There's a reason why Donald Trump has never won a single...

in spite of what he said, has never won a single election as an incumbent.

Yes, and they do not have any such a, like, electoral process that they need to respond to.

67% is still, um, a major majority, but that is down from 95% back in February.

It's, it's really reflective of the times.

I mean, you have 31%, the flip side of that disapproval is the 31% of 2024 Trump voters that are disenchanted.

They disapprove.

You have 30%, uh, overall approval from the Pew Research, um, Center here.

And I think that this is indicative of what we've all seen, what we saw last night, Trump voters walking out of the rally because this, these rants hit different

differentYou know, when he's in power.

Um, but I guess it's, it's okay for the nation to watch someone be killed on, on live television.

It's a whole different landscape, but this is what's happening now is a horse of another color as we say.

Oh, totally.

And I was on this weekend and the mood was that they thought that this would happen.

They thought the courts would be behind them.

They thought that this would be reversed.

But it's truly like you've been framing it, a real attack on the First Amendment.

And as we're coming on here, you're saying that some people are regaining access.

But Ahmed, What are folks saying out there about this? This is the first time I believe, I believe since Trump has been in the White House the first time or this time that media has actually stood together and said, okay, enough is enough.

It's, like, inhuman how greedy they are.

Yeah, I mean, this is genuinely, this is corruption at a scale never before seen.

I mean, everything you just listed, I mean, we, we don't even know where to, where to start or end here with, with this.

We have the 2.2 billion total in income, the 1.4 billion with the crypto.

You've got the, the sovereign wealth funds that are giving him an influx, so there's the conflict of interest angle, where it's like, what decision is he making in foreign policy that's not being influenced by the grift? There's also, you know, like you said, the Russian side.

You know, this is straight out of the Trump Russia [laughs] 27 for those of us who were there, that, uh, that, uh, like, in- insane Trump Russia saga that we had, and it's like, okay, imagine if this had happened then, when Mueller was still around investigating.

Would you not see this as a way for them, the Kremlin, to try to buy influence within the Trump inner circle? It, it's, it's really astounding to see, and not just the fact that, you know, when it comes to AI, other industries, he has investments in these industries.

Yeah.

But why do you say that? Why do you put, why do you put it this way?

I, I put it this way because, you know, I, like I said, my background's in tech and, and, and having knowledge of how these platforms work, they're, they're engineered to keep not only adults, but children, everyone on at all costs.

And the way that they do it, they choose to key in to the worst impulses of their users.

It's a choice.

It's not that this is just how these platforms are gonna be built.

No, they're engineered around appealing to our worst impulses, fear, emotion, uh, anger, not happiness or joy or curiosity.

That's what Facebook does, that's what Instagram does.

That's how I feel.

Do you expect, though, for Trump to be crisscrossing the country, showing up at rallies as he has in the past, standing side by side with someone like Graham? Or is she better off if she just uses her name recognition, the fact everybody [laughs] in the state knows her family, and they may already be comfortable with her because she's kind of the incumbent right now?

I hope he crisscrosses the country for [laughs] Republican candidates 'cause it will not do well for them.

'Cause I mean, uh, yes, I think Graham would benefit from him staying as far away as possible because when you look at this polling, it's remarkable.

Like, two weeks ago was probably one of the worst polling weeks for, for Trump we've ever seen, and then this week now, we got YouGov/Economist, 33%.

Um, two weeks ago we had Quinnipiac had him at 32%.

CNN had him at 34%.

We have that same CNN polls finding his Republican support at an all-time low of 78%, and then that same Quinnipiac poll had him at 76% with Republicans.

And in- an increasing number of independents and Republicans are actually starting to believe that too.

this case,

this is where she kind of self-sabotaged a little bit at the end.

I think she was heading towards a win, and it would have been the same headlines as... coming out of Abdul Al-Sayed, right? You know, the progressive wins.

But I just think she didn't, you know, people aren't as concerned with your past statements, I think, as it is your ability and your agility to explain yourself and handle it now.

Like Zoran has called for defund the police back in the day.

He called for, you know, taking on prisons.

And I think one appearance got pretty close to an abolished statement.

But I when that sort of thing happens, this this topic is going to haunt him, won't it?

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Given all the players in the region, in the conflict, um, what should the American people be bracing for?

Naïve is another term that I would use for it, and then a milder term would be pick me, is another term that I would use for it.

Yeah.

No, I think that that's all accurate.

I think the self-hatred, you know, um, is, is, is real there, and I also think it's very clearly grift.

You know, Nicki Minaj, her, her numbers...

I know you, you, you know, [laughs] you got a little, you got a little history there with, uh, going back forth with Nicki, but, like, Nicki has been out here.

Her number...

[laughs]

Or-

... [sighs] it's, 'cause it's one of those things where it's like, if, if the Supreme Court can just roll back this key part of...

And it's not just the fir- this is, they rolled back precl- preclearance in 2013.

2021 eroded Section 2, and then now basically today totally gutting Section 2 when Congress specifically passed an amendment to strengthen it.

What, like, what are we, where are we at? We could pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Act, but is the Supreme Court just gonna rule that unconstitutional? Like, so I think Democrats really gotta think clearly about how they're gonna approach this.

You know, this is the result of decades of planning from the right.

Democrats have to think long term.

Your prices of goods, the healthcare, no he- Like, hey, are you happy you sat at home? How about that third party? Are you happy you believed the bullshit that was coming out about transgender people and all that?

And so not only are they in trouble, we're in trouble.

No, e-exactly.

And, and as we saw in reporting this week from, um, Jonathan Swan and Maggie Haberman, throughout the deliberations, we see the breakdown in experience here in the deliberations of heading into the war.

We had General Keane specifically say after Netanyahu's presentation February 11th that [chuckles] Iran was overselling.

Iran, or, or Israel was overselling.

Like, Bibi straight up told Trump that the war would be done quick, that they wouldn't even have the, that Iran wouldn't even have the military resources to a- Yes.

Thank you for pulling that up.

[laughs]

Do you think that this administration is just completely clueless all the way around, all the way round, as we say?

Yeah.

I, I think so.

I mean, I think some of them know, like, the dire straits that they're in, but because the administration's built around protecting this guy's ego, none of them can, can, can even begin to think about telling him the truth.

So no truth is getting to him.

As we talked about last week, where he's getting these two-minute montage videos.

Susie Wiles is executing his agenda while trying to placate his ego.

Who are any of us?

W- w- wait, [coughs] what are you talking about?

It, it makes no sense.

We're living in the volatility of this guy's mind.

He's, he's negotiating with the voices in his head.

Like, what, what...

He's just left and right, he's going back and forth.

Like you said, one second the Iranian, um, you know, the, the uranium enrichment sites are completely obliterated.

[laughs]

It's like, what is wrong with you people?

What's happening, Ahmed? It's absurd.

And I'm glad you flip it because it can get, you know, people call it a cliche, but it's not.

Could you imagine Barack Obama's DNI? It's just there's no way this would not be a show stopping story.

The DNI has directly contradicted the president United States justification for this war.

Like you said, calling him a liar without calling him a liar.

This should be the this would be an administration halting policy.

If you had the director of national intelligence come out, you had the director of national intelligence.

This is a quagmire.

It's a quagmire.

It's an atrocity.

It's inexcusable because, you know, like you said right at the top, the war had no justification.

They have all these shifting justifications.

They talk about an intermittent threat.

They shifted all of it.

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Yeah

...

this move, and then he could...

You go to Pam Bondi, you look at the others, then he starts cleaning house ahead of the midterms, he might do that.

He's so politically bogged down that you're right, they might try to, like, j- if they start to be able to do messaging around, "Oh, it was Christy Nome that went too far with ICE," and then, "Oh, it was Pam Bondi who actually mishandled the Epstein files." And then with this Iran war, it's already being mishandled.

We didn't get to really even talk about that.

That w- that's what I thought we were gonna talk about before today.

Yeah

Mm-hmm.

And, like, so you're a friend.

So my first reaction was, "My friend Don Lemon was arrested." And I was like-...

pissed.

I did like a hour, I did like a solo Substack live stream, just kind of venting, kind of talking about it.

And then my next thought was independent journalist Don Lemon got arrested.

So then I thought about the, the bigger ramifications, and then, you know, was pissed at the Trump admin.

Uh, look, we're, we're in a bad place, man.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

I mean, NATO wasn't designed for an attack from within, you know? And, and it's, it's really scary for these, these European leaders, and we're...

I think that's what we're seeing is people being fed up.

Like that Mark Carney speech really made such a big impact from Canada when he talked about how that old post-war US, uh, reliance era is ending.

Because you have this person here, like you said, that's the right word, embarrassment.

You know, I was on with Stephanie Ruhle last night.

I think, and, and, at, at, they're like, probably at this summit, they're like, "You don't even go here." [chuckles]

It was a, I think, a disastrous day for the president.

You're, you're so right, and I think the public opinion side, like, you know, they were- their opinions, uh, the public opinion was low, so they thought, "Okay, well, we're not gonna speak out against them." When they speak out, they finally get it.

I think what Europeans are, um, seeing now, the European leaders, is that, you know, speaking of World War II, this isn't actually a Winston Churchill quote, it's in the movie The Darkest Hour, but they say, "You can't reason with a tiger when your head is in his mouth," right? And I think right now what we're seeing is that the European leaders are seeing you can't flatter your way out of this.

You can't coax Trump's ego and get him to back down from stuff.

You have to respond with force and strength, and I think we saw that the, that the troop deployments in Greenland, I think you're right, that's probably what pushed him back, 'cause he's used to just be- steamrolling.

And I think really what we saw, especially with Mark Carney's speech, that that forceful, eloquent description of the post-World War II order crumbling really, I think, was a, was a-

Explain.

Um, so essentially, they're talking about how Russia is gonna carve up land here, and they're gonna go in Russia, and they're gonna go ahead and revitalize Russia's economy, and they're gonna make deals with Rosneft, the oil company, and, and it's really this situa- and, you know, Kushner's in on it.

And that word, ty- tyranny or tyrannical, that is in that amendment, in the Second Amendment, so-

I mean, there's a lot of, there's a lot of people with "Don't Tread On Me" stickers on their car right now that are allowing the government to tread on them.

Um, [chuckles] that's, that's, that's what's happening.

And honestly, this is a real talk conversation to have, 'cause I'm glad we're just getting real about, like, what, what do we do about it now? We could sit here, we can analyze it, we can dissect the legality of the Insurrection Act, we can do all that stuff, but, like, what is it really gonna take to actually push back on this? And I've been thinking about this a lot.

I'm actually doing a, a MLK tribute speech next, this Monday.

Wisconsin, uh, the government asked me to do it, which I was, like, honored to do.

So I'm gonna go in the Capitol Rotunda and give a MLK keynote address, and I've been writing a speech and just thinking about, deeply about what we need to do.

Yeah

Then shit is really gonna hit the fan.

Yeah, people think he has a bottom.

Well, the bottom has not fallen out yet.

Wait until those, those healthcare premiums double and then we're gonna see his polling go down even more.

And you're right.

That's what we've been seeing and what we've been talking about over this last year, is this slow-rolling realization among more people, uh, and that, that back him, that he's a con artist and that this is a lie and that he's been gaslighting them and he doesn't care about them.

We see it in poll after poll.

... and they're gonna get those higher premiums.

Yeah.

... time gap there where it's like, you would need to do that follow-on strike pretty quickly.

And it's just interesting to watch them completely throw Admiral Bradley under the bus.

And again, it goes back to that Senate Democrat video where they talked about trying to urge military not to follow unlawful orders, because if you do, this administration will clearly throw you under the bus.

And I think right now what we're seeing is, you know, right now we're looking at the difference between whether or not he was the one that, that gave the initial kill everybody order or not, or whether or not he was present for that second strike.

But I think we gotta take a step back and recognize that the strikes dre- generally, the first one itself, all of them are unlawful within themselves, right? Like th- there's, they're, they're all under question.

They're all extrajudicial killings.

Widow, yeah.

own."Mm-hmm.

... of a client list, right? That these survivors also have their own stories.

And they've been restricting enough, and this law has been passed, maybe we might see more information.

For example, from the estate itself, um, all of these, th- these emails that they released, like, uh, p- it came from them.

It came from the estate, not the DOJ.

Do they have more information that we don't know about? Will they release that after? You know, I think Democrats will continue to hunt down these other leads to try to buffer, because I- I think the- the e- info we got from these emails, the combination of Trump definitely knew, of course he knew about the girls, dog that didn't bark.

There's all this information n- indicating that Trump knew about all the abuse.

What would you left, be left to believe just from the circumstantial evidence? Where would your mind take you? I mean...

Trump administration right now, and Donald Trump saying, "Go harder." I think that people, I think people are fed up, and I hope, I hope that the Latino people who voted for him finally have come around and realized that, "Everybody, they should not be voting for Donald Trump."

Mm-hmm.

(laughs) Yeah, and I think people in the comments agree, MAGA is eroding, right? And also hit the like button, respond if you're feeling what we're saying, ask questions, we're watching what you're saying, engage, because I agree, man.

I think the spell is broken.

Like, the, the Latino vote specifically, um, counties like Hudson County in New Jersey where there's like, uh, 60% or more Latino population swung double digits, around 20 points, to the left.

Like, that's a massive swing from one election to, to the other, from 2024 to, from one year.

I think you're right, I think the fever is beginning to break.

But he was like, "I'm out."

I- I- I don't- I don't get it.

It's just...

Because it's just such a fire hose of corruption that it's, like, hard for people to, to like, to, to grapple with it all because what he's doing, as you're outlining here, like, it's a, it's a, a melding of himself with the state itself.

Like, even when he was talking about the DOJ payout that he's apparently gonna approve for himself, the $230 million, he was saying, "Oh, I'll be paying myself." He's conflating himself with the government and then in that conflation, corporations see him as one with the government, so they need to curry favor, they need to pay to play.

And it's just...

It- it's- it's the same story with everything else, like the Argentina bailout, for example.

It's him trying to help out his buddy Milei, but also, Bessent and Trump's friends, the hedge fund guys that are deeply invested in Argentina.

To the press.