Agathon

How much he gains in leisure who looks not to what his neighbors say or do or intend, but considers only how his own actions may be just and holy.

Looking not, as Agathon says, to the moral example of others, but running a straight course and never turning therefrom.

He who is careful and troubled about the fame which is to live after him considers not that each of those who remember him must very soon die himself, and thereafter also the succeeding generation, until every memory of him, handed on by excited and ephemeral admirers, dies utterly away.

Grant that your memory were immortal and those immortal who retain it, yet what is that to you? I ask not what is that to the dead, but to the living what is the profit in praise, except it be in some convenience that it brings.

and with Pausanias was a youth quite young, who is certainly remarkable for his good looks, and, if I am not mistaken, is also of a fair and gentle nature.

I thought that I heard him called Agathon, and my suspicion is that he is the beloved of Pausanias.

There was this youth, and also there were the two Adimantuses, one the son of Cephas, and the other of Leucolophides, and some others.

I was very anxious to hear what Prodicus was saying, for he seems to me to be an all-wise and inspired man.

While you live, while yet you may, be good.

how much he gains in leisure who looks not to what his neighbors say or do or intend, but considers only how his own actions may be just and holy, looking not, as Agathon says, to the moral example of others, but running a straight course and never turning therefrom.

He who is careful and troubled about the fame which is to live after him, considers not that each of those who remember him must very soon die himself and thereafter also the succeeding generation until every memory of him handed on by excited and ephemeral admirers dies utterly away Grant that your memory were immortal, and those immortal who retain it.

Yet what is that to you? I ask not, what is that to the dead? But to the living, what is the profit and praise? Except it be in some convenience that it brings.

How much trouble he avoids who does not look to see what his neighbor says or does or thinks, but only to what he does himself, that it may be just and pure.

Or as Agathon says, look not round at the depraved morals of others, but run straight along the line without deviating from it.

He who has a vehement desire for posthumous fame does not consider that every one of those who remember him will himself also die very soon.

Then again also they who have succeeded them, until the whole remembrance shall have been extinguished as it is transmitted through men who foolishly admire and perish.

While you live, while yet you may, be good.

how much he gains in leisure who looks not to what his neighbors say or do or intend, but considers only how his own actions may be just and holy, looking not, as Agathon says, to the moral example of others, but running a straight course and never turning therefrom.

He who is careful and troubled about the fame which is to live after him, considers not that each of those who remember him must very soon die himself and thereafter also the succeeding generation until every memory of him handed on by excited and ephemeral admirers dies utterly away Grant that your memory were immortal, and those immortal who retain it.

Yet what is that to you? I ask not, what is that to the dead? But to the living, what is the profit and praise? Except it be in some convenience that it brings.

You've got the philosopher Socrates.

You've got the tragic playwright Agathon, who's hosting the party, the symposium, the drinking party.

The comic playwright Aristophanes.

You've got a student of rhetoric, Phaedrus.

And it [clears throat] it is a, and it, and it is a party.

It's a celebration of a, a guy named Agathon, um, who has just, who was, he was a tragedian.

He was a, a writer of tragedies, and he's just won the City Dionysia.

Uh, that's, that, that's, that's what the, that's what the whole thing is about.

Like, they wanna move on from...

They, they, they, they, the, the dialogue continues on.

You get that speech and then, and then finally Agathon himself gets to talk, the great, the great poet, the great tragedian.

And I mean, there's a...

How much trouble he avoids who does not look to see what his neighbor says or does or thinks, but only to what he does himself, that it may be just and pure.

Or as Agathon says, look not round at the depraved morals of others, but run straight along the line without deviating from it.

He who has a vehement desire for posthumous fame does not consider that every one of those who remember him will himself also die very soon.

Then again also they who have succeeded them, until the whole remembrance shall have been extinguished as it is transmitted through men who foolishly admire and perish.