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Oct 14, 2026
Day two of Impeachment Committee
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0:00Mandy WienerHOST
In the Western Cape High Court, the EFF and the African Legal Professionals Association challenging the Section 89 impeachment committee's decision to rescind the appointment of Advocate Tendisani Madonsela as evidence leader.
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0:13Mandy WienerHOST
Uh, yesterday, we heard from, uh, the applicants.
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0:16Mandy WienerHOST
Today, we're hearing from the respondents, so the impeachment committee's lawyers responding.
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0:24Mandy WienerHOST
Lyndsay, afternoon to you.
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0:26Mandy WienerHOST
Take us through the arguments being made today.
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0:28Mandy WienerHOST
Advocate Camille Prempree, I think, uh, is arguing.
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0:32Lindsay DentlingerCORRESPONDENT
Good afternoon, Mandy.
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0:33Lindsay DentlingerCORRESPONDENT
Yes, he seems to be, um, nearing the end of almost three hours, um, of, uh, arguments before the court on that recommendation of Advocate, uh, Tendisani Madonsela, and importantly pointing out, uh, to this court that, if I could say, it was merely a recommendation.
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10:49Mandy WienerHOST
Take us through the arguments being made today.
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10:51Mandy WienerHOST
Advocate Kamil Pramod, I think, uh, is arguing.
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10:55Lindsay DentlingerCORRESPONDENT
Good afternoon, Mandy.
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10:55Lindsay DentlingerCORRESPONDENT
Yes, he seems to be, um, nearing the end of almost three hours, um, of, uh, arguments before the court on that recommendation of Advocate, uh, Tendazani Madonsela, and importantly pointing out, uh, to this court that if I could say it was merely a recommendation.
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11:12Lindsay DentlingerCORRESPONDENT
There was, um, yet no process, uh, to appoint him.
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11:16Lindsay DentlingerCORRESPONDENT
This was, um, part of a process to get to that particular point.
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11:20Lindsay DentlingerCORRESPONDENT
And, um, uh, Advocate, um, Pramod really trying to bring home the point, uh, that the actions that Parliament took or this committee took in this particular matter, uh, first to make that recommendation and then later to rescind it, um, it wasn't acting on external pressures from anyone, least of all the president, uh, who also objected, uh, to this recommendation being made, uh, final, um, saying that what the committee was doing really was to, uh, protect the integrity of this process, that it had adopted a higher bar, um, than the average for determining, um, what would be considered a, a, a high threshold, uh, for, uh, integrity, and that all the information that was put before it, be that from ANC Secretary General Fikile Mbalula, what MPs may or may not have known when they took that initial recommendation, what Advocate Madonsela himself declared to the committee.
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12:16Lindsay DentlingerCORRESPONDENT
All these were factors that it has taken into account to make sure that this process, uh, is, um, beyond, uh, reproach, and that, um, i-it could not be, um, argued for certain what MPs did and did not know, um, about the extent to which Advocate Mbalula at the time was consulting with the ANC on matters related to these impeachment proceedings, Mandy.
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0:18Aubrey MasangoHOST
A very, very interesting conversation.
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0:21Aubrey MasangoHOST
Uh, just got a message from my very good friend, Advocate Maufe, who's listening to us all the way from Juba, uh, in, uh, South Sudan.
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0:30Aubrey MasangoHOST
Um, a-and he says, "Obs, evening.
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0:33Aubrey MasangoHOST
I'm listening to you as always all the way from Juba, South Sudan.
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0:36Aubrey MasangoHOST
Obs, if as per Advocate Burger, SC argued for the ANC at the Concord today in the matter involving IEC, if there is no act, regulations which state that in order for one to submit a sub- a submit but- button as inserted by the IEC, legally there is no obligation for anyone to do so, even if parties include the ANC have been complying with the IEC's so-called submit button and press rule.
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1:05Aubrey MasangoHOST
But the IEC to come with any regulations, it must first gazette them.
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1:09Aubrey MasangoHOST
It looks like this won't com- w-wasn't complied with by the IEC," uh, says the Advocate.
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1:16Aubrey MasangoHOST
[clears throat] I suppose, Advocate, you're, you're correct that if we are going to go a legal route in this conversation, then we can get as legalistic as we need to be.
EFF and the African Legal Professionals Association are in the Western Cape High Court today challenging the Impeachment Committee's decision to rescind Advocate Thandazani Madonsela as its evidence leader
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0:16speaker_0NARRATOR
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0:23Elvis PresslinHOST
The EFF and the African Legal Professional Association are in the Western Cape High Court today challenging the impeachment committee's decision to rescind Advocate Mbuyiseni Ndlozi and its evidence leader, as its evidence leader, I beg your pardon.
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0:39Elvis PresslinHOST
The two applicants want the court to set aside the committee's decision and have Ndlozi reinstated.
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0:45Elvis PresslinHOST
They argue the move to remove him was irrational and undermines the credibility and fairness of the impeachment process.
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0:59Godrich GardeeGUEST
A very good morning, Elvis, and to our listeners.
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1:02Elvis PresslinHOST
Now, the EFF and the African Professional Association are asking the court to overturn the impeachment committee rescission.
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1:10Elvis PresslinHOST
Why is the reinstatement of the Advocate, uh, Ndlozi so critical to the fairness of this inquiry?
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1:18Godrich GardeeGUEST
Mr. Elvis, a subject of investigation cannot have preferences who must be the evidence leader.