Advanced Squad Leader

we played that and i guess by the time i was like 13, 14.

My brother also went into advanced squad leader.

I'm not sure if you've played that one, but it's a very detailed World War II game where you have like hexes and cardboard tokens playing.

And that one had a thick binder with rules.

And so, before I keep going with my story with League of Dungeoneers...

What were you trying to achieve when you combined these two things and this randomness and the RPG and the physical components? Were you aware of a clear goal or were you just kind of creating?

Well, I think it actually goes back to Advanced Squad Leader because when we played that, there was this ad at the end where you could play, instead of using the cardboard tokens, you could use small metal tanks and miniatures but they were quite expensive and of course we didn't have a salary so it was like it was a dream so i vowed them that when i grow older i will play games using miniatures instead of cardboard and make it more visual because it looks

yeah it's cool basically

from people who ended up on the losing end of a really bad experience as far as they were playing players that were better than them, they didn't realize it, or they didn't want to admit it, and they're playing a scenario that's a very advanced scenario, and it's not an easy scenario to play.

It's kind of funny because every player that was the better player, the more experienced player, the one that I would, there's some scenarios, some matchups that you really can't make that decision because the players are so close in knowledge.

But when you put McGrath up against somebody who's a very casual player, you know that McGrath is going to win.

It's a foregone conclusion.

And The other guy should just realize that he's going to lose, and he's trying to learn something from

Bill Connor, I didn't know him.

Eric Baker, I didn't know him.

He's kind of disappeared, but he was a really good player too.

And me saying that I find Battletech crunchy, there will be some real grognards laughing and saying, oh, Battletech, that's, like, a super lightweight game.

You should be playing Advanced Squad Leader or something where, like, You're tracking all this extra stuff.

So I think I like a little bit of that crunch in a war game and a miniatures game because that's kind of...

To me, that's like half what the game is about.