Achmea B.V.

So I earned my credential in Turkey and I pursued also the UK, the Institute and Faculty of Actuaries examinations.

But then I had to take a stop because in 2016, the whole reason why I'm in Canada, there was a little bit interesting story because I was tasked to start an insurance company on behalf of a Dutch insurer called Achmea.

So that was pretty much the first, the breakthrough into the technology world and understanding how this, the core system actually works.

So that's pretty much how I got into technology side of the things.

So I look for people who come in with a great idea, who need our help or want our help turning that idea into something real.

And Achmea itself is an insurance in the Netherlands.

Yes.

So how did it come about that they are so actively looking for startups?

So you... throw a couple of people in there and you tell them to just work on innovation, just try and come up with new ideas, new solutions for problems, mostly within sort of fields adjacent to the core organization.

That doesn't really work at all.

So we pivoted quite aggressively and we decided to become a fully fledged startup studio where we build startups that don't necessarily have anything to do with the core products of Achmea.

but where we can add value and where there is societal impact to be made as well.