Abraham Piper

And there seems to be a pattern here of... of some of these fundamentalists not affirming preachers and their children being very, very different.

Just a little example and shout out, if you want to, to you actually, Jay Baker, who is the son of Jim and Tammy Faye Baker, and also Abraham Piper, who is the son of John Piper, So if you want to go have some fun, go look up Abraham Piper on social media and watch some of his TikToks.

Yes, they're great.

It's great.

Why? Because Doug Wilson is holier than John Piper? No, I don't, I don't necessarily think so.

I think the big reason why is that at some point Abraham Piper, who has a TikTok of over a million people where he t- is constantly trying to persuade people to apostatize and abandon the Lord Jesus Christ.

I mean, he's a wicked, wicked man, and he's doing this publicly, to his father's shame.

I wish it was more shame.

But, um, but why? The question is why? I think at some level...

I'm not saying this is the only reason why.

Yes, God sovereignly has to save, and God very clearly has not saved Abraham Piper.

But if you think that there's not at least some element of, of Abraham Piper as a young man coming to his dad and saying, "Dad, what do you have for me?" "The gospel of Jesus Christ." "That's great, Dad, but what else do you have for me?" "Nothing.