Abbie Hoffman

I- in comparing the, in comparing the, the view of, uh, or the orientation of the executive branch, um, you know, in 1941 to '45 and from 1965 to '73, it's like night and day.

You know, like if you think Roosevelt would have tolerated, you know, um, Abbie Hoffman, uh, or so- or, or some counterpart like W. Pelley, you know, holding 100,000-man protests, um, waving National Socialist flags in Washington, like you're dead fucking wrong.

Like why this was allowed and like why this kind of nonsense, you know, why, why, why Cronkite was allowed to be embedded at I Corps and, uh, at Long Bien when, uh, you know, NLF like sappers were assaulting it.

I mean, that's a whole other issue, but people did realize something was wrong.

But in absolute terms, like, this doesn't make any sense.

You know, and like I said, Vietnam's exceptionalized.

Like people, you know, the, the narrative presented by, you know, people like Ron Kovik, people like Oliver Stone, you know, people, uh, in the era like Abbie Hoffman, was that this is like kind of conspiratorial design.

It's like, look, man, like the Truman Doctrine was very clear.

He could never have seen that coming.

And at that time, we had another, in the 1960s, at the time, a young author of media personality, a radical revolutionary socialist guy by the name of Abbie Hoffman.

and he was well known here in America, and he had the opposite point of view as Slogut.

And he wrote books, he gave speeches, and he thought, as a young man in the late 1960s, early 70s, that his ideas were taking over, and they were the wave of the future, and that he had a bright career and life ahead of him.

He committed suicide, and he was a very politically motivated, very passionate guy, but for the socialist side.

He was opposed to Slogan.

And why did Abbie Hoffman do that in 1988? Because I told you, in the 1980s, Slogan's ideas about free market capitalism came roaring back, and Hoffman...

thought, well, boy, I was wrong.

By the time you hear this, now I'm recording it on Saturday night, but you may not be able to hear this until Tuesday morning because we've got Will coming in and all kinds of stuff going on.

But I wanted to talk to Howard because he's kind of the Rational Boomer's Abby Hoffman of current day protest.

Now, Howard's an older guy like me.

He lives out in Western Minnesota in a Red Sea where he's a blue dot.

Let's see those grand jury documents and then let's see what Alan Dershowitz has to say.

Gerald Lefcourt, a nationally renowned New York criminal defense attorney whose clients have included Abby Hoffman, Black Panther Party leaders Russell Crowe, and real estate tycoon Harry Hemsley.

Where is he now? Left court recently represented Andrei Kokushkin, a defendant with Boca Raton businessman Lev Parnas, and Igor Fruman, who were accused of conspiring to circumvent federal laws against foreign influence in American elections by funneling campaign donations to a pro-Donald Trump super PAC.

Kokushkin, a Ukrainian-born businessman, was found guilty and sentenced to a year in prison.

So a lot of stuff is the health care.

You know, if you can get more things from it, kind of what Abbie Hoffman back in, you know, he had a book, Steal This Book.

Mm hmm.

I imagine he sold, mostly sold, and he made money off it.