Now, you got any tips? What are your best tips for four-wheel driving and getting out on the beach and driving on the sand?

Yeah, perfect.

Great one.

So everybody says it, but tyre pressures is the most important thing.

And don't be scared to go low.

So people get very scared of going low.

So if you're in the situation that you're going to get bogged, the first thing that you need to do is just assess.

Yeah, look, this

What does your tenure, the way it started to the way it wrapped up, mean to you as a guy who grew up down the street?

Yeah.

I mean, it means everything.

I tell people all the time.

I've been a Duke fan since I was a kid.

I moved to Durham, North Carolina, um, from Los Angeles, California around three years old.

And so I've always claimed Durham.

How much has your father, Anthony, had an influence on you?