A Guide to Rational Living

And I was lucky that in my early twenties, I stumbled upon good self-help.

So I found this book called A New Guide to Rational Living.

And one of the authors was this guy, Albert Ellis, who's considered the grandfather of modern cognitive behavioral therapy, which is one of the gold standard therapies in the world.

And it taught me this technique called cognitive restructuring, where you challenge your thinking.

But you touched on a couple of things that potentially make the origin of your book, the 12 levers obvious, but I just want to be clear first, is there, are there things about you that it would help for a listener to know in order to understand how you came to write this book with Spencer Greenberg?

Yeah, definitely as I mentioned before, I was lucky because I started to find good self-help around my early 20s and it changed my life.

So I had that experience reading A New Guide to Rational Living, that book, and I had another experience reading a blog that made me realize how much my approval seeking was causing my suffering and it helped me let go a lot of that and cultivate more of an attitude of self-acceptance.

So I knew that good self-help existed, but it was pretty hard to find.