3rd Armored Division

And a lot of the instructors at the time were retired Vietnam veterans.

Fast forward, I go to my first assignment in 3rd Armored Division in Germany and come back, go to the advanced course and become an instructor pilot.

And I had a number of Department of the Army civilians that were Vietnam veterans.

One comes to mind, Jim Estes.

I followed that with a three-month mini fellowship in total joint arthroplasty at the Royal National Orthopedic Hospital in London, England, which included visits to Charlie's Place up in Wigan.

Following that, I remained in Europe, and served in the U.S. Army Medical Corps from January 1968 through December 1970 as Chief of Orthopedic Surgery at the hospital at Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe in Southern Belgium, and then Chief of Orthopedic Surgery at the 33rd Field Hospital serving the 3rd Armored Division in Würzburg, Germany.

After that, I joined the faculty of the Department of Orthopedic Surgery at the University of California, San Francisco, where I was the assistant chief to Ted Bovell in the Department of Orthopedics at San Francisco General Hospital and joined up with the team and their level one trauma center there.

From 78 to 79, I did an NIH Fogarty International Research Fellowship in the E.O. Davos Research Institute in Davos, Switzerland.