Mais c'est un nouveau visage des Leafs avec l'arrivée de Marc Cinco et le petit nouveau Gavin McKenna.

Oui, absolument.

Et on a la confirmation que Kirill Marchenko va être en mesure d'affronter le Canadien ce soir.

C'est un détail évidemment d'immigration et de visa de travail qui a été obtenu.

Gavin McKenna va jouer son premier match en carrière dans la Ligue nationale de hockey.

Il a été le tout premier choix du dernier en camp de la Ligue nationale de hockey.

Marchenko, c'est la transaction monstre.

Est-ce qu'en tant que joueur, ils se mettent la pression à dire « OK, il faut au moins que j'accote ça cette année, sinon c'est une saison décevante? » Penses-tu qu'ils se mettent cette

How important is it going to be that they get this squared away if they want to pick up where they left off last season? Huge.

Early last season, I think they suffered from, I'm not kidding, they suffered from Dvorak and Armia going somewhere else, not because of the quality of their offense, but because that's a role they fit and they played pretty well for the Habs.

So I think they suffered from that early on.

and not getting enough saves from Dolbech and Montarbo early on in the season last year.

Now Derek Lalonde comes in.

These are not state secrets.

I knew about them, but since Stéphane Rabida told us right on the broadcast, I can say is they're going to try to make entries more difficult.

How does he avoid becoming the next Andrew Raycroft? And instead, I'm sorry.

How important is it going to be that they get this squared away if they want to pick up where they left off last season? Huge.

Early last season, I think they suffered from, I'm not kidding, they suffered from Dvorak and Armia going somewhere else, not because of the quality of their offense, but because that's a role they fit and they played pretty well for the Habs.

So I think they suffered from that early on.

and not getting enough saves from Dolbech and Montarbo early on in the season last year.

Now Derek Lalonde comes in.

These are not state secrets.

I knew about them, but since Stéphane Rabida told us right on the broadcast, I can say is they're going to try to make entries more difficult.

How does he avoid becoming the next Andrew Raycroft? And instead, I'm sorry.

How important is it going to be that they get this squared away if they want to pick up where they left off last season?

Huge.

So early last season, I think they suffered from, I'm not kidding, they suffered from Dvorak and Armia going somewhere else, not because of the quality of their offense, but because that's a role they fit and they played pretty well for the Habs.

So I think they suffered from that early on and not getting enough saves from Dolbes and Montalvo early on in the season last year.

Now Derek Lalonde comes in.

These are not state secrets.

I knew about them, but since Stéphane Rabida told us right on the broadcast, I can say they're going to try to make entries more difficult.

Andrew

Mais malgré tout ça, est-ce que tu penses que l'avenir de Samuel est déjà scellé dans la tête de Ken Hughes ?

Moi, je dirais que non, parce que c'est la situation idéale pour un peu tout le monde.

Yacoub Dobesh apprend à être un gardien de but numéro un.

C'est sa première occasion dans la Ligue nationale de hockey.

Vous venez de le mentionner.

Samuel, c'est vrai, Mario, il a été spectaculaire samedi, mais statistiquement, même si c'est très, très court, le cas d'entraînement, c'est trois demi-matchs, il a été un des meilleurs gardiens de toute la Ligue nationale de hockey.

Assurément le meilleur chez le Canadien.

Est-ce qu'il faut se méfier de Toronto cette année ?

Marc, as-tu envie de revenir un peu sur les propos de Martin ?

Bien, tu sais, je ne suis pas surpris.

Tout est bon dans ce qu'il dit.

C'est vrai qu'un jeune peut bénéficier, même s'il ne joue pas tous les matchs et ne joue pas 15 minutes par match, peut bénéficier.

de bons entraînements.

Puis on est assez...

J'ai employé le mot que Martin Sainte-Louis n'a pas souvent calculé du côté du Canadien.

Bien, un, tu

Si on veut nommer des noms de joueurs en ce moment qui n'ont pas leur place garantie, qui doit encore faire sa marque sévèrement ?

Oui, j'ai envie de dire que tout le monde qui est en uniforme doit se démarquer.

C'est sûr que pour des gars, je vais prendre l'exemple de Nick Suzuki, de Lane Hudson, de Mike Matheson, leur poste est acquis.

Ça, c'est dans le béton, ça ne bougera pas.

Il y a certains joueurs, je pense à Zachary Bolduc, Oliver Kapanen, Alexandre Texier, qui jouent peut-être eux leur place au sein de la formation.

Ils vont rester à Montréal, mais sur quel trio joueront-ils et avec qui joueront-ils, ça c'est important.

Puis la deuxième unité du jeu de puissance n'est pas coulée dans le béton non plus.

Avec la LNH qui pourrait augmenter le plafond salarial à 127 millions, est-ce que selon toi, sur le long terme, mettons nos joueurs qui ont un peu accepté d'y aller, bon marché justement, parce qu'il y avait espoir pour une coupe et qu'ils avaient envie d'être là, est-ce qu'ils pourraient demander une petite hausse pas pire dans les prochaines renégociations selon toi ?

Does the player know exactly how to play that role? Does he know exactly what MSL is looking for for him to be a mainstay on the wing or potential center on line number three or line number four?

Yeah, it's a good question.

I don't have an answer.

I don't know.

Are we in the part where we hear, not saying a lot of times, we'll be, they're going to direct us, right, in the direction? Is it a part where right now it's like, let's see what he brings and he'll play where he's telling us he can play? Or is it a matter of now I have to sit down and say, listen, I don't have a spot for you in my top six.

This is what you need to do to be in my bottom six or in the lineup every night.

I don't know if that conversation has happened, and you're saying why.

Well,

What do you think about the camp he's had so far, and has he earned... that opportunity based on his play so far.

Yeah.

I liked this first game.

I didn't care so much for his second game, but I didn't like the meet-offs or Slav's second game either.

I thought Slav was trying to do too much.

We're talking about Monday night and 12.

Yeah.

Does the player know exactly how to play that role? Does he know exactly what MSL is looking for for him to be a mainstay on the wing or potential center on line number three or line number four?

think

he's...

I think he deserves to be there, whether they can make it work or not to start the season.

I don't think it means much.

I just, I think there's food for thought there about having Florian Jack guy in your 12 forward roster night in and night out.

And you need to figure it out now, whether, you know, it's the wave somebody, which I think is unlikely or it's defined, you know, a solution.

Is it a minor trade? Is it a bigger package deal trade that you're able to make? I don't think it happens now if it's a bigger trade because most GMs are like, I want to see what I got.

Does the player know exactly how to play that role? Does he know exactly what MSL is looking for, for him to be a mainstay on the wing or a potential center on line number three or line number four?

Does the player know exactly how to play that role? Does he know exactly what NSL is looking for, uh, for him to be a mainstay on the wing, uh, or a potential center on line number three or line number four?

Yeah.

It, it's a good question.

I don't have an answer.

I don't know.

Are, are we in the part where we hear Matt Gainey saying, we sa- saying a lot of times will be, "They're gonna direct us," right, in the direction? Is it a part where in the right now it's like, "Let's see what he brings, and he'll play where he's telling us he can play"? Or is it a matter of now I have to sit down and say, "Listen, I don't have a spot for you in my top six.

This is what you need to do to be in my bottom six or in the lineup every night"? I don't know if that conversation has happened.

[laughs]

Yeah, we talked about that earlier in the show.

If he is, that's your answer.

Correct.

And I hate to throw in the towel.

And he could go to Edmonton, put his stick on the ice and score 20 with McDavid or whatever.

But it's just one example.

But I understand.

I mean, you could argue the

best of the four goalies, although all four have been pretty good.

From work ethic in practices to the two half games, two starts he got.

So, yeah.

I mean, I think the plan is becoming more and more concrete, more and more obvious of what's going to happen.

And I think it plays right into the Habs' hands.

I mean, gives time to Jakub Dobesch.

But what about this decision? What about this 2C by committee? Have you seen signs that point you in a direction that it's going to be a rotation or it's someone has stepped up a little bit and you're willing to give them a long look at that 2C role?

I mean, you could argue

the best of the four goalies, although all four have been pretty good.

From work ethic in practices to the two half games, two starts he got.

So, yeah.

I mean, I think the plan is becoming more and more concrete, more and more obvious of what's going to happen.

And I think it plays right into the Habs' hands.

I mean, gives time to Jakub Dobesch.

But what about this decision? What about this 2C by committee? Have you seen signs that point you in a direction that it's going to be a rotation or it's someone has stepped up a little bit and you're willing to give them a long look at that 2C role?

I mean, you could argue

the best of the four goalies, although all four have been pretty good.

From, you know, from work ethic in practices to the two half games, two starts he got.

So, yeah, I mean, I think the plan is becoming more and more concrete, more and more obvious of what's going to happen.

And I think it's...

It plays right into the Habs' hands.

I mean, gives time to Jakub Dobesch to have his first shot at being a number one goalie.

Two auditions, if we're going to look at it that way, and it seems, I think Sean and I agree, I think it sounds like you do too, he has passed the first two auditions with Flying Colors, including most recently playing with Lane Hudson in a preseason game, right?

I

mean, you could argue the best of the four goalies, although all four have been pretty good.

From, you know, from work ethic in practices to the two half games, two starts he got.

So, yeah, I mean, I think the plan is becoming more and more concrete, more and more obvious of what's going to happen.

And I think it's...

It plays right into the Habs' hands.

I mean, gives time to Jakub Dobesch to have his first shot at being a number one goalie.

Two auditions, if we're going to look at it that way, and it seems, I think Sean and I agree, I think it sounds like you do too, he has passed the first two auditions with Flying Colors, including most recently playing with Lane Hudson in a preseason game, right?

Jacky, penses-tu qu'il y a des chances que les deux commencent, en fait, on le sait qu'Herbert va être là, mais son frère, pourrais-tu commencer la saison, tu penses?

Bien, de commencer la saison à Montréal, s'il n'y a pas de transaction, ça va être très difficile.

Puis là, c'est un exercice comptable, beaucoup plus que de performance.

Il y a beaucoup de joueurs à Montréal, il y a beaucoup d'attaquants, il y a 13 attaquants sur des contrats.

Tu n'as pas le droit d'avoir plus que 23 joueurs dans ta formation.

Bien là, faisons le compte ensemble, puis on va dépasser.

Et Florian Jacquet n'a pas besoin de passer par le balotage pour aller à l'aval.

Puis c'est qui qui va être d'imbue pour le Canadien ce soir? On commence avec qui, en fait?

tellement de sujets.

Ouais, je sais.

Montembeau, on va y revenir, mais pour Ryan Baker et Florian, Jacky, eux, ils vont bénéficier d'avoir un match supplémentaire.

Ils vont avoir la chance d'en jouer trois.

Ils jouent tous les deux ce soir, puis...

Pour eux autres, c'est ultra important.

Parce que si c'est pas...

Et là, Luke Middlestad, les gens peut-être ont su l'an passé qu'il est venu finir l'année avec le Rocket, mais lui, s'il joue du hockey solide, non pas il va monter dans l'alignement, mais ils viennent de dire à l'organisation, vous avez cette profondeur-là du côté gauche, ça veut dire qu'un Struble ou un Engstrom, ou peut-être même, moi je ne veux pas échanger des goulets de ce monde, même s'il est trop souvent blessé, Mais ça permet de dire à l'organisation, vous avez une profondeur, si un Engstrom ou un Struble, pour ne pas dire Jack-Eyes, faisaient partie d'une transaction.

Quels sont les joueurs, tu penses, qui ont encore à se prouver pour se tailler leur place dans l'alignement pendant les matchs

préparatoires? Il y en a encore plusieurs.

Moi, je crois que la lutte la plus intéressante est peut-être à la défense.

En l'absence de Caden Goulet, qui s'est fait opérer à nouveau pour une vieille blessure, qui ratera le début du scan d'entraînement et de la saison régulière.

Il a un poste à gagner à la défense.

Alexandre Carrier rend de bien meilleurs services aux Canadiens lorsqu'il est à droite d'un troisième du haut de défense.

Ce qui veut dire qu'il y a peut-être deux places à solidifier après Hudson, Matheson et Dobson.

Est-ce que tu trouves que ça fait partie de l'effort d'être plus transparent avec les fans?

Mais est-ce qu'on connaît un peu les formations au-dessus des petits scoops là-dessus?

Anne, si tu veux bien, on va attendre Gilbert tantôt pour en jaser en fin de chronique de ça.

Moi, je trouve pas ça si stupide, mais je vais expliquer surtout pourquoi on fait ça à la Grande Réunion nationale de hockey.

Écoute, je respecte ton opinion, puis celle de Gilbert, mais je vous le dis, c'est pas une erreur, on présente les deux matchs.

Mais la technologie, pour se cloner, elle fonctionne pas encore bien, fait que c'est pas Pierre et moi qui allons être là pour les deux matchs.

Andréanne, la gang d'analystes, toute l'équipe de production, Pierre et moi, on va être au Centre Bell.

Match à 19h.

Oui, oui.

Am I wrong in thinking that 50 is a reasonable number, the bare minimum in terms of the expectation for a guy like Jakub Dobes this season?

For Hockey La Magazine in French, I just did, did a deep dive.

I actually delivered it yesterday, so I'm gonna pull up a couple of numbers here.

20 years, okay? 20 years is, is a lot.

A lot can happen, but it's names that we all know.

So 20 years ago, in a 30-team league, 19 goalies played 55 games or more.

Last year, it was only nine.

What if they simply have consistent goaltending this year, or at least more consistent goaltending than they had a year ago while they were trying to get things on track with Montembeault? What do you, what do you make of that? Like, how, how much of a positive impact can just more consistency in goal have on this team this season?

Am I wrong in thinking that 50 is a reasonable number, the bare minimum in terms of the expectation for a guy like Jakub Dolbech this season?

[lips smack] For Hockey Magazine in French, I just did, did a deep dive.

I actually delivered it yesterday, so I'm gonna pull up a couple of numbers here.

20 years, okay? 20 years is, is a lot.

A lot can happen, but it's names that we all know.

So 20 years ago, in a 30-team league, 19 goalies played 55 games or more.

Last year, it was only nine, less than half of that with two more teams.

What if they simply have consistent goaltending this year, or at least more consistent goaltending than they had a year ago while they were trying to get things on track with Montembeault? What do you, what do you make of that? Like, how, how much of a positive impact can just more consistency in goal have on this team this season?

What are your thoughts on what he's up against and, and what does his mentality need to be here?

Just, uh, it, it's tough, but it's a blank slate, right? Has to be a blank slate, and you're fighting...

Obviously, he has the, the Habs at heart.

There- I have no doubt.

Nobody has any doubt.

Uh, but it's also for your, your career.

Where does your path take you from here? And there's an opportunity here because Jacob Fowler is still a young goaltender that could benefit from playing, from getting some playing time at the AHL level, while Jakub Dobes, a little older, is, has shown that he can be a number one guy and tries to be a number one guy for the first time in a regular season to start off the regular season.

What if they simply have consistent goaltending this year, or at least more consistent goaltending than they had a year ago while they were trying to get things on track with Montembeault? What do you, what do you make of that? Like, how, how much of a positive impact can just more consistency in goal have on this team this season?

What are your thoughts on what he's up against and, and what does his mentality need to be here?

Just, uh, it, it's tough, but it's a blank slate, right? Has to be a blank slate, and you're fighting...

Obviously, he has the, the Habs at heart.

There, I have no doubt.

Nobody has any doubt.

Uh, but it's also for your, your career.

Where does your path take you from here? And there's an opportunity here because Jacob Fowler is still a young goaltender that could benefit from playing, from getting some playing time at the AHL level, while Jakub Dobes, a little older, is, has shown that he can be a number one guy and tries to be a number one guy for the first time in a regular season to start off the regular season.

What if they simply have consistent goaltending this year, or at least more consistent goaltending than they had a year ago while they were trying to get things on track with Montembault? What do you, what do you make of that? Like how, how much of a positive impact can just more consistency in goal have on this team this season?

What did you think of the extension and what everybody was saying about it yesterday?

Yeah, as far as Martin St. Louis is concerned, obviously, you know, passionate, I'm not surprised.

He was when I was a teammate of his, or he was a teammate of mine, in Tampa.

He wanted to figure things out.

He wanted to get better.

I probably told this story before, but I will again.

You know, it was the paddle down era for goalies before the VH and the RVH, and he wanted to know why.

What, if anything, can you tell me about, uh, specifically Marchenko and, and even the bigger picture of what's happening in Columbus right now?