1 Timothy 2:12

Can you believe we are now on piece 11? Hasn't this been an incredible journey as we've all paused and as we've all considered and as we've all been called and challenged to think again, what does scripture really say about women in leadership? Well, here I am with Andrew Bartlett, who is the author of piece 11, and he's written Seen and Not Heard.

Does 1 Timothy 2 ban women in the teaching in the church? Well, this piece examines the original translation and false teaching that was occurring in Ephesus and why this actually isn't a universal ban in the contentious and often misread passage of 1 Timothy 2.

As I said just now, Andrew Bartlett has been a real supportive friend and ally to many women leaders, including myself and to Curia.

Andrew is an international arbiter with a BA in theology, and he's also the author of Men and Women in Christ, uh, which is a fresh light from the biblical text.

This is such a strong blog, and arguably you've been given one of the trickier passages and the one that has often been used and weaponized against women leaders over and over again.

So diving in with the first question.

Your blog depends heavily on identifying the women in 1 Timothy 2 as a specific group of wealthy, recently converted widows who were influenced by Artemis worship.

I wonder what do you see as the strongest evidence for this reconstruction, and how would you respond to those who argue the evidence is too circumstantial?

So one example, Brian Simmons is egalitarian, which means he believes that women are not restricted from serving as pastors, teachers over men, apostles, prophets, etc., etc., etc.

So in the verse, in 1 Timothy 2, verses 11 to 12, which is often used by complementarians, so those who believe that certain roles in the church are restricted to only men, Here's how 1 Timothy 2, 11 to 12 is translated in the Passion Translation.

It says, So compare this to a normal translation.

It says, The phrase newly converted, which Brian Simmons inserted twice in these verses, is nowhere to be found in the Greek of this text.

note to put up with that is to mention that there also is a note when I'm looking at the Passion Translation right now.

online.

For example, we were talking about this 1 Timothy 2.12, where it says, in the Passion Translation saying, I don't advocate that the, and then it has the phrase newly converted in italics, which is a common thing that's used in Bible translations to say, these literal words are not there, but they're understood.

And there's actually a note here that says, implied and understood by the cultural context of that day.