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footsteps and be in menswear? Um, probably when I, when I, maybe towards the end of school, I suppose I would have been about, I mean, I spent, you know, lots of, lots of Saturdays in the factory and, uh, you know, so we'd, we'd often kind of be in the factory in the morning and then we might go and visit, you know, one of his wholesale customers.

So you know, dad had ultimately sold his business to Tumblr NASA.

So, so we might go to Tumblr NASA on a wet, which, you know, he, you know, kind of took it over when he, when he sold the business.

And so we'd often go there on a Saturday when we, when we left the factory.

Um, but, um, sorry, what was your question, James?